Originally Posted by jmt57

His comments about spygate bothered me as well - for being the devout christian, he seemed to come up with judgements fairly quickly.

Other than that Tony Dungy is a wonderful person, he does a lot of great work for at-risk kids, spending a lot of time with them out of the goodness of his heart. I have no problem with him whatsoever away from football; the world would be a better place with more people like him.

Aside from his unnecessary comments about BB in regards to spygate, I do believe he is over rated as an NFL coach. Look beyond the W-L record, and you have a coach that constantly under achieved in both Tampa and Indy. Once the Bucs previous owner passed away, they were willing to spend money to win rather than lose but rake in their share of the revenue sharing. Several draft picks were already on board, and thanks to a terrible first season they had good picks heading in to his second season.

That was Perfect Storm I, and though the team was considered pre-season SB favorites time after time, they never got that far - and if I'm not mistaken never made it to the NFCCG any other year either. The first season after he leaves, the team wins a SB - and the Dungy apologists give him credit by saying 'that was Dungy's team' even though they won less games than the previous year three seasons in a row, a la Surfer Pete.

He then lands a job in Indy with a team that included Peyton, Marvin, and Edgerrin James. After a Mora meltdown the previous year, they had nowhere to go but up. The offense continued to do well despite Dungy, and just like in Tampa Bay they under achieved in comparison to the amount of talent on the field. Fortunately they rallied against the Pats, got a gift Bears team to play in the SB, and he finally won a Lombardi.

Now he's deified as this great coach based on stats, but in my opinion he vastly under achieved when you take a close look at his opportunities. That is the problem I have with Dungy; it's not him, but the way so many in the media, and the fans who echo their words, praise him with a blind eye. In my opinion he's over rated, even though he will surely end up in the NFL Hall of Fame.

Originally Posted by Lifer

seperating church and state??

serious much?

a guy is entitled to say whatever he wants. Compared to the stuff 99% of athletes and coaches say and do its refreshing to that they have something upstairs besides marbles.

You know, he never called himself St. anything and neither have anyone in the media. Its the people who have a problem with a good man being called one who use these ridiculous terms.

hey, i dont know Tony Dungy. But when so many people consistantly say the same thing, I would think its true. And to endure what he endured 3 years ago....I just dont want it said that NOBODY in Patriots Nation can give the guy his props and simply wish him luck.