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Well, the Browns seem to be obsessed with Pats defensive coordinators.

I don't think it's a smart move for either the Browns on Mangini, honestly. He's a pretty smart guy and has some coaching chops, but was in over his head with the Jets. A lot of guys are in their first coaching gig. The best thing to do after you fail is to step back a bit, regroup, be a coordinator again for a couple seasons. He's diving right back into it, and unless he's a very quick learner, he's likely to make the same mistakes all over again (although I THINK he'll have a good QB there with Quinn, which should help.)

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Gunnails

I bought into Mangini's program evidently Lerner did to.

Mangini has left the Jets in better shape then when he found them.

I wonder how much money Eric has made since he left the Pats?
I know it is a lot of money, seems like a good decision after all, leaving the Pats.

Larry Whigham

It was a good decision for him personally but I'm sure you can understand why Pats fans are prone to rip the guy.

alvinnf

THe question is, What is left to pick off the JEST carcass ala' Welker and Morris from Miami.

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I don't think you can say that Mangini did much to change the Jets. They brought in some high-priced players and missed the playoffs.

Obviously Mangini made more money as a head coach--another head coaching position awaited him in the future (obviously; he already has one) and I suspect a better one.

You've got too many posts on a Pats message board, by the way.

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strongside

Do you think BB gets pissed that these youg guys get HC gigs without paying their dues like he and the older breed did?

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alvinnf

You know it's probably easier for these young guys to get a job these days, it's also allot easier to get fired. So I'd say 'it is what it is'.

Tunescribe

No, because they just make his current job easier.

strongside

You look at BB and the resume he compiled with the Lions, Colts, Giants. It took him what, 20 plus years to get an HC job. Then when he got fired it was another 8 years before he got a sniff.

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Rob0729

Are the Jets really in better shape now than three years ago? Who is the QB for the Jets in 2009? Going into the 2006 season, Pennington looked better than anyone who may be available in 2009. How much longer does Thomas Jones have? The guy is going to be 31 at the start of next season and that RB age wall hits fast and hard. The Jets are way over the cap with a potential first round bust who might actually be one of the biggest of all time. Faneca, Pace, and Woody have proven to be overpaid and not nearly as good as expected. Kris Jenkins proved that he still has a conditioning problem and by his own admission petered off by the end of the season.

The Jets' window seems to have shut without even opening all the way. They are in cap trouble just like they were when Mangini got there and they have no clue who will be their QB of today or the future. Exactly how are they in better shape?

Sorry, Mangini tried to force players to play his style of football even if they didn't have the skill set (see Vilma, Gholston, Robertson, etc.). He had poor clock management. He made poor strategic decisions. He played not to lose A LOT.

Mangini may have had a lot of personal financial success, but I think he helped to set the Jets back and I doubt he will have any more success in Cleveland because they have less talent than the Jets have had the last three years.