PATRIOTSFANINPA

Miami and the NY Jets were already looking to the 2008 draft at this time last year but this year has them not only with winning records but a good chance to make the playoffs and boast as division champs

With that being said,Which one player between both teams in his first year with them has been the biggest difference maker in turning their new team around?

Gunnails

Hands down it has to be Lion Heart.

PatsFaninAZ

If you think about it, the Favre acquisition made two teams better by making Pennington tradeable.

PatsDeb

Ironically, I think Pennington is the reason the Fins are better and Favre is the reason the Jets are better. TMQ claims Favre is losing arm strength down the stretch and this is the reason the Jets have lost 2 in a row. I hope it continues.

PATRIOTSFANINPA

Its amazing that Pennington has made that team so much better when guys like Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas could not

Shows you that QB is the biggest difference between winning and losing when you look at the overall picture

Not to mention an absolute genius as GM in soon to be HOFer Mr. Parcells

PatsFanSince74

jury's out, but when you consider where they came from, it's got to be chad. favre had a lot of other new weapons on both sides of the ball and he looks like he's getting ready for a late season el foldo.

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PatsFanSince74

that's a very interesting way of looking at it, but I'm not convinced that, in the end, the jets wouldn't have been better off keeping chad and seeing how he worked out with the other new weapons. we have three more weeks to solve that one.

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JSn

Pennington and Jenkins:

When Jenkins has a bad game, the Jets have a bad game.

Pennington is a better QB in many ways (except for the stretching of the field, which is admittedly big) and he makes the Dolphins better by a lot.

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PatsFaninAZ

I think I agree with that. But if Miami ends up beating the Jets out for the division title, the irony will be excellent.

PatsWickedPissah

Mathematicly it's Chad. Biggest improvement and he's the centerpiece. Contrast him to Aqua's butt boy Beck at QB last year. Excerable.

Jenkins has absolutely made the Jets better but they haven't gotten THAT much better vis-a-vis the Phins, so he's a distant 2nd. Favre is now in his "Bret being Bret" mode and will make the Jets worse.

If we want to win the AFCE, we need to pray that al-Quaeda kidnaps Pennington for the next 3 games releasing him at New Years as an olive branch. Just a thought

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