Dan Snyder and Washington Redskins considering nuclear option to restore cap space - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard
NEWS
|
FORUM
|
PHOTOS
|
VIDEOS
|
FULL STATS DATABASE
|
PODCAST
|
RUMOR MILL
Get Social With PatsFans.com
Five Thoughts On Tebow
'13 NFL Previews Are In
Tebow at QB? No Way

Go Back   New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard > PatsFans.com Forums > PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum > NFL Football Forum
Forgot Password? Join PatsFans.com!
Register Blogs FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Mark Forums Read Chat Room

WELCOME TO OUR FORUM HERE AT PATSFANS.COM!
ARE YOU NEW HERE? NOT LOGGED IN? PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REGISTER FOR AN ACCOUNT AND LOGIN TO REMOVE THIS WINDOW

Welcome to PatsFans.com. Do you have an account? If not - please take a moment to register for our forum and experience a much smoother experience with fewer ads, along with no longer having to see this notification window. Also learn about how you can receive a free Patriots T-Shirt from the Patriots Official ProShop by CLICKING HERE. Please enjoy your stay here, and Go Pats!

Like Tree5Likes

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-26-2013, 10:44 PM   #11
Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
 
Fencer's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,424
My Mood: Grumpy
Default Re: Dan Snyder and Washington Redskins considering nuclear option to restore cap spac

For the first and probably also the last time in my life, I think Dan Snyder is in the right.
__________________
"To lose one parent may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness." -- Oscar Wilde
Fencer is offline   Reply With Quote
FEATURED ADVERTISEMENT
DONATE TO PATSFANS.COM
RECEIVE A FREE PATS T-SHIRT AND SAVE 15% OFF WHEN YOU BUY FROM THE OFFICIAL PROSHOP!

Free T-Shirt & Save 15% Off!
Like Our Site? Please help support our site and server costs by DONATING TO PATSFANS.COM and receive a FREE PATRIOTS T-SHIRT and SAVE 15% off EVERY purchase you make from PatriotsProShop.com. You'll also receive added benefits to your account
including Removing All Ads During Your Experience Here At Our Forum.

NEEDED YEARLY SITE DONATIONS: 345 | CURRENT # OF SUBSCRIBED SUPPORTERS: 98

Updated 07/08/11

Help Us Reach Our Goal!

Old 02-26-2013, 11:20 PM   #12
Brady to Dobson
 
Brady_to_Moss's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Blackjack table at Foxwoods
Posts: 12,024
My Mood: Cool
Send a message via AIM to Brady_to_Moss
Default Re: Dan Snyder and Washington Redskins considering nuclear option to restore cap spac

that franchise is a joke
Brady_to_Moss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2013, 12:15 AM   #13
In the Starting Line-up
 
BradyBranch39's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: OH
Posts: 2,146
Default Re: Dan Snyder and Washington Redskins considering nuclear option to restore cap spac

Snyder vs Goodell

AKA

49ers-Ravens pt. 2
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
BradyBranch39 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2013, 06:15 AM   #14
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
old 55's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Herndon VA
Posts: 305
My Mood: Aggressive
Send a message via AIM to old 55
Default Re: Dan Snyder and Washington Redskins considering nuclear option to restore cap spac

Quote:
Originally Posted by shmessy View Post
The REDSKINS are an "up and coming team"??????

Please.

They are a mess.

They have no first round picks until 2015 - - they used them up on a QB whom they just ruined.

Let's see now.......no cap space.....no first round picks until 2015..... You do the math.

Snyder's only hope not to further embarrass himself is to sue the NFL into nonexistence.
I stand by my assessment. I'm not a fan, but here in Northern VA, I hear lots about them on the local sports shows.
1st - they won the NFC East
2nd They had the #5 offense in the league with a rookie QB and a thin WR Corp beyond Garçon who missed multiple games last season.
3rd RGIII was mishandled, but there is no evidence that he's ruined.
4th They lost 2 of their best D players early in the season and still won the NFC East
5th They have a very solid running game

Do they have multiple needs? Absolutely. Are they lacking draft picks? Absolutely.
But they have a Franchise QB and a capable backup.
Will they be able to go deeper in the playoffs without the cap space that was taken away by the league? Unlikely, but I think the leak that they were contemplating the suit was saber rattling to force a settlement with the league to get back some of the lost cap room.
If they get some cap relief, they may be able to plug some holes.

If they get a little cap relief, they would be able to
old 55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2013, 06:32 AM   #15
2nd Team Getting Their First Start
 
betterthanthealternative's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 1,966
Default Re: Dan Snyder and Washington Redskins considering nuclear option to restore cap spac

  • get an experienced coach with a winning track record - check
  • get the owner out of personnel decisions - check
  • get a franchise quarterback with strong character and a charismatic personality - check
  • win the division - check
  • recapture the local sports fan base so the Nationals don't run away with it - check
  • find a way to continue to strengthen the team - TBD
betterthanthealternative is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2013, 06:42 AM   #16
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
Rob0729's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 25,489
Default Re: Dan Snyder and Washington Redskins considering nuclear option to restore cap spac

Quote:
Originally Posted by VJCPatriot View Post
Not taking any sides here, but if it is called an UNCAPPED year... why would you be punished for spending too much in that year? That's very unintuitive.

Not at all upset that Washington/Dallas are getting the shaft, but they kind of have a right to complain for spending 'transgressions' committed in an 'uncapped' year. Did Goodell go over the line or is he just the mouthpiece of the other 30 owners with his ruling?
The league warned every team before free agency that year that there could be repercussions for spending like a drunken sailor in the uncapped year when a new CBA was signed. So Snyder was warned that something like this may happen. That is why only a handful of teams were penalized with only Dallas and Washington getting huge fines.
Rob0729 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2013, 07:09 AM   #17
Maude
 
shmessy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 16,201
Default Re: Dan Snyder and Washington Redskins considering nuclear option to restore cap spac

Quote:
Originally Posted by old 55 View Post
I stand by my assessment. I'm not a fan, but here in Northern VA, I hear lots about them on the local sports shows.
1st - they won the NFC East
2nd They had the #5 offense in the league with a rookie QB and a thin WR Corp beyond Garçon who missed multiple games last season.
3rd RGIII was mishandled, but there is no evidence that he's ruined.
4th They lost 2 of their best D players early in the season and still won the NFC East
5th They have a very solid running game

Do they have multiple needs? Absolutely. Are they lacking draft picks? Absolutely.
But they have a Franchise QB and a capable backup.
Will they be able to go deeper in the playoffs without the cap space that was taken away by the league? Unlikely, but I think the leak that they were contemplating the suit was saber rattling to force a settlement with the league to get back some of the lost cap room.
If they get some cap relief, they may be able to plug some holes.

If they get a little cap relief, they would be able to
Big deal. I live in Montgomery County and hear the same sports shows. The difference between me and you is that I know who OWNS those "local sports shows". Google: Red Zebra Broadcasting. It'll be an eye opening experience.

The Redskins had one breakout year. They have little or no cap space and no first rounders until 2015. What do you think their running quarterback will look like after the pounding and surgeries this season? He's not Brady - - he has a great arm but 50% of his game is about exceptional mobility. He's a great kid and a tremendous talent - - his tragedy is that he was selected by the most dysfunctional NFL organization with a head coach who will hit pedal to the metal immediately in order to save his job in the short term.

What that organization did to that kid should be illegal. It says everything one needs to know about that franchise. He's too good for them and now they've ruined him - - and will do it again this year. People wonder what Bobby Orr would have been like if he could have had his knees for more than 6 years. People will wonder what RGIII could have done if he had his for more than 4.

The NFC East won't lay down and die for them again this year. Last place, and the fire Snyder petitions will be back after the one year hiatus.
__________________
"They (Patriots) may be the greatest team ever" - Chris Mortenson, January 18, 2005 on espn.com
shmessy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2013, 07:35 AM   #18
Maude
 
shmessy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 16,201
Default Re: Dan Snyder and Washington Redskins considering nuclear option to restore cap spac

Quote:
Originally Posted by betterthanthealternative View Post
  • get an experienced coach with a winning track record - check
  • get the owner out of personnel decisions - check
  • get a franchise quarterback with strong character and a charismatic personality - check
  • win the division - check
  • recapture the local sports fan base so the Nationals don't run away with it - check
  • find a way to continue to strengthen the team - TBD
Hmmm. funny you bring up the Nationals.

Want to compare how they handled Strasbourg versus how the Redskins handled RG III? Both teams went one and done in the playoffs last year.

Wanna make a bet which team is in better shape for the next decade?

The Skins are the New York Jets of the NFC - - circa 2010. They went all in for last year, used up their 1st rounders until 2015, have little or no cap space and are now holding fingers crossed on RG III. They are toast. This is the reason why Snyder is contemplating the Nuclear Option.

I'm going to drop a little wisdom on you: Only desperate people pull the pins out of grenades.
__________________
"They (Patriots) may be the greatest team ever" - Chris Mortenson, January 18, 2005 on espn.com
shmessy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2013, 09:04 AM   #19
On The Game Day Roster
 

Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 415
My Mood: Paranoid
Default Re: Dan Snyder and Washington Redskins considering nuclear option to restore cap spac

Quote:
Originally Posted by VJCPatriot View Post
Not taking any sides here, but if it is called an UNCAPPED year... why would you be punished for spending too much in that year? That's very unintuitive.

Not at all upset that Washington/Dallas are getting the shaft, but they kind of have a right to complain for spending 'transgressions' committed in an 'uncapped' year. Did Goodell go over the line or is he just the mouthpiece of the other 30 owners with his ruling?
because they used boredline illegal tactics they front loaded contracts and in order to get players longterm for pennies on the dollar. They used the uncapped year as a way to offset spending when the cap came back. The NHL removed the ability to have extreamly long contracts for the same reason.

Those 10-15 year deals where the player gets a lot early, and then vet minimum at the end in order to have an average cap hit below market value.
chasa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2013, 02:58 PM   #20
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
old 55's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Herndon VA
Posts: 305
My Mood: Aggressive
Send a message via AIM to old 55
Default Re: Dan Snyder and Washington Redskins considering nuclear option to restore cap spac

Shmessy,
You assume that I don't know who owns the local sports shows. I do.
You seem to think I've drunk the koolaid, but I don't agree.

I agree that they badly mishandled RGIII.

What neither you nor I can say is if RGIII will be damaged to the point of being ineffective until he is back from the injury.
old 55 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Sponsored Links



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Reid triggers 'Nuclear' Option patsfan13 Political Discussion 2 10-07-2011 09:11 AM
Hillary Clinton's Nuclear Option IcyPatriot Political Discussion 6 05-10-2008 02:14 PM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:22 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

© Copyright 2000-2012. PatsFans.com Is a Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties.
The opinions posted in this forum do not necessarily reflect the opinions of our staff at PatsFans.com or USA Today.
We are not affiliated with the New England Patriots™ or the NFL™. The Photo Used In the header was taken by Ian Logue.

This site is owned and operated by I&K Internet Design Enterprises, LLC


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566