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View Poll Results: The non-call on the last 4th down play was....
The Right call....let the players play 35 26.92%
The Wrong call...he was held after five yards...you have to call that 95 73.08%
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:40 PM   #71
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Of course...THIS is now "not a penalty" because that's just how the Ravens play football...got it...so the obvious offensive PI on Torrey Smith in the 2nd quarter is "just part of the game...unless it's one of OUR WR's"...right....quoth the Raven...Everwhore!

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In Super Bowl XLVII, we'll be talking about Jimmy Smith's hold/non-hold on that 4th-and-goal, Chris Culliver's pass interference, the no-call pass interference on Corey Graham on 2d-and-goal with the ballgame on the line, and the no-call offensive pass interference on Torrey Smith that could have resulted in a Culliver interception.

another huge gift for the Rave-ons they NEVER should have gotten....but who cares?...Ray Lewis didn't have anything to do with MURDERING two people...and to prove it he pled out to a misdemeanor and paid the families of the murder victims some money because Jesus told him to.... you know what you should all do, Rave-on fans...you should all get together and pontificate from on high and cry, biatch and moan about "spygate" some more...freakin' turds.
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:17 PM   #72
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talk about a hold
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:22 PM   #73
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Even if Crabtree wasn't held on the fourth and goal, I still don't think he would have made the catch. It was a badly placed ball, the Ravens got a great jump off the snap and hurried Kaepernick. Poor execution in the red zone and spotting the Ravens deep bombs, kickoff returns, etc.. killed the 49ers chance for a Superbowl, not the referees.

Yeah, the game featured some bad calls, but they were going both ways. The Ravens took advantage and the 49ers didn't, easy as that.
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Old 02-04-2013, 07:08 PM   #74
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Its def a penalty but it was consistent with the way the game was being called so no complaints here.
Biggest bunch of garbage I've seen posted here in awhile by you. it wasn't consistent with the way the game was being called...
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Old 02-04-2013, 07:13 PM   #75
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I think it was the right call. The ball is on the five yard line, the DB gets five yards to check the receiver. I think the receiver initiated the contact, the DB wasn't trying to stop the receiver from getting to the corner, to me it looked like the receiver was trying to push off, then saw the ball going the other way & tried to run through the DB who had every right to be where he was.
Learn the rules. Everything you mention deals with Pass Interference, not defensive holding. Defensive holding is when the defender grabs ahold of the receiver with one or BOTH hands. It doesn't matter if it is within the 5 yard "CHUCK" area or not. It's not allowed.

Also, the reason why it "looked" like Crabtree pushed off is because Jimmy Smith tripped over his own feet while holding on to Crabtree. The idea that he tried to run through the DB is absolute fiction on your part since the ball was to the outside while the DB was lined up inside.
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Old 02-04-2013, 07:14 PM   #76
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They made the right call by calling nothing. They've been letting the DBs and WRs be physical all night. At least they kept it consistent.

Culliver's PI on Smith on an earlier drive was WAY too obvious to let it go so they called that one.
It wasn't consistent in any way, shape, or form.
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Old 02-04-2013, 07:15 PM   #77
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As many others have been saying, I don't care which direction a single call goes, I just want them to be consistent and predictable about how they call things.

And to me, it was pretty consistent.
How could it have been "CONSISTENT" when it was as bad as the Culliver PI earlier that was called?

People claiming that it was "consistent" are trying to convince themselves that it was...
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Old 02-04-2013, 07:16 PM   #78
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They both held eachother. Might as well call it on both... or just to keep things simple, they didn't call it at all.
WRONG. Crabtree did not hold onto Jimmy Smith. That is just BS on your part.
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Old 02-04-2013, 07:20 PM   #79
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No way in hell do I want a refs to give the 49ers a victory, remember, they get a whole set of downs and they can milk the clock, on a questionable call. I saw contact on both players and it wasn't much, and those no calls happen all the time.

The throw was crap, he barely got it off. If the 49ers wanted to score they should have jammed the ball inside. You don't win by needing the refs. You win in spite of the refs.

This is why the Pats are crap lately. They do gimmick plays, they whine about one or two plays (wellker drops) and they fail to see the bigger picture. The game is, ultimately, won by the team most hungry to win. Tonight, and against the pats, the ravens were more hungry. The pats have no hunger, only gimmick strategy.
You are blind. You clearly have no clue that there is a difference between CONTACT and actually HOLDING a player's jersey, which is what Smith was doing. Claiming that there was contact by both players and saying that there wasn't much of it basically says you have no idea about the rules.

What you and so many other people don't seem to realize is that the throw being catchable has no bearing on defensive holding calls. NONE.
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Old 02-04-2013, 07:24 PM   #80
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Crabtree made there would be no call by pushing off on the defenders helmet. Torrey smith was not pushing off, so the refs threw the flag.

That's the way mutual contact works and people need to stop questioning the refs based on who they would like to see win. Nobody complained when the miners benefitted by a similar non call at the same critical moment when they were playing the falcons.
Crabtree wasn't pushing off of Smith's helmet. Smith was FALLING DOWN after having tripped over his own feet trying to hold onto Crabtree. Crabtree's arms were moving like anyone's do when they are running and went against Smith's helmet as he fell. That isn't pushing off.
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