mayoclinic

Comp picks are nice because they either give you extra picks in a deep draft, or give you more freedom to use your regular picks to move around and possibly trade up.

The general formula for comp picks involves the contract value of FA's lost vs. signed. Re-signing your own FAs doesn't count. I think it's safe to assume that any of Welker, Talib and Vollmer that aren't re-signed will get big money deals from someone else, and that the Pats don't have the cap space to sign a big money outside FA, so it's almost certain that we'll lose more than we get this year. What exactly that will work out to remains to be seen, but big money FA signings usually fetch 3rd or 4th round comp picks.

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Off The Grid

Couldn't've put it better, myself.

And there's no need to replace Welker at all.

It's time to Pass less, and Run more.

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manxman2601

We need a better O Line for that. The reason we were successful running last year was because we saw more nickel/dime packages than any other team. We'll see less of that without Welker I suspect.

everlong

Except they only run more and pass less under two sets of circumstance. One vs a weak run defense or two by trickery. Their offensive line isn't great at putting a helmet on a helmet and winning the one on one battles. When good to great teams know they're running it they generally get stuffed. So you're going to have to retool the O-Line for that to happen. Or at least C and RG.

"IMHO, this is the road to PERDITION and DAMNATION, from both a cap and a offensive scheme perspective. "

Holy hyperbole Batman. Even if you franchise Welker it's an 11M cap hit. I'm not advocating a 4/40 with a 12M bonus that's back ended and cripples them some year down the road.

I read your stuff in the WR thread and you do make some good points about percentage of the cap to the receiving position. I can see the merit to receivers by committee but with the current lineup of Gronk, Hernandez, Edelman (assuming he's resigned) and Ballard that's a lot of players who haven't stayed healthy.

The other thing about using three draft picks in the draft is they still need a lot of work on the defensive side of the ball. I'd like to see an 3-4 DE/4-3 DT type, another 3-4 lb/4-3 DE, a safety and a corner. Minus a lot of trading back they don't have a lot of picks as it stands.

Pay Wes at least for a year and continue to grow the defense. Maybe pick up a mid level FA receiver and take a flyer on a late round draft pick at receiver.

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everlong

Exactly, that and quick snapping and draw plays.

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mayoclinic

Yes, we do. That works for me.

- Solder with Mankins/Thomas on the left side was fine
- Move Connolly back to center
- Draft DJ Fluker and put him at RG next to Cannon, or Vollmer if we can keep him
- Get Gronk back, and add Ballard as a second blocking TE
- Draft a fullback/H-back like Kyle Jusevics to clear the pile when we need to run

I would consider that a line that we should be able to run behind.

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mayoclinic

If you take on an $11.5M cap hit for Welker this year you probably have to let Woodhead and Edelman walk, and then Welker is gone in 2014, and then where are you? Are you any better off in the long term than you are now?

Of all the available options, I think that using the franchise tag on Welker again would be one of the worst. A huge cap hit when we don't have a ton of room to maneuver, with no long term solution.

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I.M. Fletcher

The only use I the franchise this year will be to attempt to control welker or vollmers price and market. There are only a small handful of teams with money this summer, do slapping the tag on welker, only for the market to dry up, he would probably be forced to sign, creating a potential trade situation. If he tries to wait us out, the tag can be pulled and no harm no foul.

Just a thought, but wouldn't be surprised if they use it for maximum leverage and to possibly increase assets.

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You don't SAY???

I've been advocating "a better O Line" since 1426, my friend.

Please reference my Signature if you have any further questions.

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One More & With Feeling...

You don't SAY???

I've been advocating "a better O Line" since 1426, my friend.

Please reference my Signature if you have any further questions.

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