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stinkypete · 03-24-2012, 02:42 PM

I'm not sure Belichick values the 5 technique as must as he did a decade ago. The game was different back when he was drafting guys like Warren high in the 1st round, when stout run defenses were championship defenses. Now, it's all about stopping the pass. A 5 technique is only a part time player in today's Belichick defense.

Now, If Belichick views Brockers as a Seymour-esque interior rush monster, my opinion changes, but most scouting reports see him as more of a 5 tech.

rookBoston · 03-24-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by captain stone

I hope not. He's not worth a top-10 pick. Fletcher Cox, OTOH...

.... isn't worth a top 10 pick, either

rookBoston · 03-24-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by stinkypete

Now, If Belichick views Brockers as a Seymour-esque interior rush monster, my opinion changes, but most scouting reports see him as more of a 5 tech.

Confused what you mean. Seymour played 5-technique for us, too.

manxman2601 · 03-24-2012, 02:53 PM

Would much rather have Devon Still - at least there's some production there.

***mrscruff*** · 03-24-2012, 03:46 PM

I personally don't believe all four of Cox, Poe, Still and Brockers will make it to pick 27. If the last of these makes it to the 22-24 range I would make a minor trade-up to snag whoever is the last of four ... unless you like Reyes better in the early second that is!

manxman2601 · 03-24-2012, 03:56 PM

The one question though is how does BB feel about these 5-techs now? Last year we passed on three supposed ideal ones in Cam Jordan, Heyward and Muhammed Wilkerson. Was that simply the lockout dictating that or has BB's priorities changed? The "need" has been there the last two years and BB hasn't addressed it. Is this year likely to be any different?

patsderoer · 03-24-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mrscruff

I personally don't believe all four of Cox, Poe, Still and Brockers will make it to pick 27. If the last of these makes it to the 22-24 range I would make a minor trade-up to snag whoever is the last of four ... unless you like Reyes better in the early second that is!

Still and his 50% motor? No thanks. He was absolutely owned by the Wisconsin OLiners, pushed back and taken out of play 1on1 numerous times vs average college OLs from Illinois.

Poe? Watch him get blocked 1on1 by a RB around 1:27 in this video Dontari Poe - YouTube A competent DT would've run all over that RB. Another guy with a very questionable motor.
Opposing line coach on Dontari Poe: “He took plays off” | ProFootballTalk
Poe can run fast at 350, under 5sec 40 but then again, so did this 350 guy. Brandon Keith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia He is now a FA and Arizona are not rushing to get him back.

Ochmed Jones · 03-25-2012, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mrscruff

I personally don't believe all four of Cox, Poe, Still and Brockers will make it to pick 27. If the last of these makes it to the 22-24 range I would make a minor trade-up to snag whoever is the last of four ... unless you like Reyes better in the early second that is!

I have to agree with you on thinking the 4 DT's will be off the board by #27. A lot of draftniks have Reyes climbing into the bottom of the first round.

However I put Reyes in the same category as Barron. Second round grade, that could move up based on need.

If Carolina takes Cox at #9 it could start a mini run on the DT position.

Ideally Brockers would be available at #15 and I think Philly would jump at the chance for #31 and #48 for #15.

Seems like we've had Andy Reid programmed in #1 on the war room phone speed dial for the past decade. (Ha! Ha!)

captain stone · 03-25-2012, 11:15 AM

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.... isn't worth a top 10 pick, either

Prob. true, but he is still more worthy of a trade-up (late teens/early 20s?) than Brockers is.

captain stone · 03-25-2012, 11:18 AM

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The one question though is how does BB feel about these 5-techs now? Last year we passed on three supposed ideal ones in Cam Jordan, Heyward and Muhammed Wilkerson. Was that simply the lockout dictating that or has BB's priorities changed? The "need" has been there the last two years and BB hasn't addressed it. Is this year likely to be any different?

Excellent question.