cstjohn17

NFLDraftScout and my favorite NationalFootballPost.com

Nation's top prospects beginning to separate from rest of pack - NFL - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

National Football Post Scouting Department | National Football Post

NePatriots

Love both those sites as well.

Here are our 2012 Rankings (Scouting reports linked up there as well)

2012 NFL Draft Positional Rankings

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cstjohn17

Nice! just curious if you have had to adjust your approach to defensive players with the Patriots playing more 4-3?

RJB87

I enjoy the player ranking websites much better than the "here's where we think the draft order would be as of today" websites. I'd rather see the top prospects, once you have a look at that you have a good idea of how they will slide around depending on draft order.

NePatriots

Yep, we're spending a lot more time watching guys like Zach Brown, Brandon Thompson, etc... that might not have made the exclusive 3-4 cut before.

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Defsoul

Zach Brown looked really good in the first half against Clemson. He had a sack, another TFL and nearly intercepted a pass if I remember correctly. Looked fast and agile. Didn't notice him much in the second half though.

RJB87

Zach Brown looks like a great upgrade at the strong side OLB position. I like him more than all of the 3-4 OLB prospects that we would likely be able to draft. Another good kid is Sean Spence and I think he will be available at the end of the 2nd or early 3rd.

edit: Also, UNC as a program has been producing some really goods kids lately. I know Marvin Austin and Bruce Carter are injured right now but next year or the year after I think these two are going to be beasts.

This National Football Post is losing a bit of respect in my eyes. They have Manti Te'o in their top 32 prospects listed as an OLB and he's clearly an ILB. They also don't have him listed at all when you sort by OLB or ILB prospects.

patsfaninpa

I've listened to a couple of his podcasts. He knows the technicalities of the game. I just question his judgement when it comes to evaluating prospects. Brown does look like a NFL linebacker. If we got him and Melvin Ingram or Vinny Curry. I could live with that.I see Curry as an eventual replacement for A. Carter. Still would like a strongside de that's more athletic than Shaun Ellis. If Crick falls to the middle of the 2nd, he could be that type of player. I don't think he's strong enough at the point of attack to be a 3-4 de. But, a strong-side de in a 4-3 could be his niche. Safety at the end of round 2. I want to see more of this M. Martin kid from OSU. A lot of people are high on him.

1a Zach Brown - olb in base 4-3
1b Vinny Curry - de/olb in our nickel
2a Jared Crick - LDE in a 4-3
2b Markelle Martin - S - Ok ST
3 Ben Jones - C - Georgia

I think we go to more 3-4. But, I'm not crazy about the 3-4 de's. The really big boys don't look athletic enough to me. Since we'll already have Vince and Albert. Don't want another 350lb dl.

Defsoul

He's not listed in their big board and not in the position rankings, because he's an underclassman. It's seniors only. He is part of the Mock Draft though just like Luck, Barkley, Kalil and many other underclassmen.

RJB87

Ah, that makes sense.