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Old 04-22-2008, 09:43 AM   #1
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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo..._gholston.html

No law against tooting your own horn, I suppose.
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Oddly after reading that piece I hope the JETS if not the Raiders bite. I'll pass. That assessment that he's a first rounder on tape, a mid first at the combine and a top ten when he takes his shirt off... Bill looks at the entire package, but in the final analysis he always goes back to the tape. He'll see uneven performances as a sign the player isn't self motivated. By his own admission he is tying his success to landing in the right system with good coaching. If he disappoints, guess who he'll blame - it won't be the guy in the mirror. Bill looks for players who could overcome not being so lucky - especially in the top ten picks in the first round since you're gonna have to pay 'em like they already succeeded.
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While I'm not dismissing these negative hits on Gholston, I'm not sure we can take them at face value, considering they come from anonymous sources in the NYdailynews.

Gholston had more sacks over the past 2 seasons than any other Div I player.

Gholston dominated the best competition he faced, Michigan and Wisconsin, and was solid if not spectacular vs LSU. On the LSU game alone I would have rated him a mid to late 1st rdr, because his NFL caliber strength was obvious. For comparison, he made more of an impact vs LSU than Woodley did vs USC last season.

Gholston is only a junior. For comparison C. Long had 4 sacks as a junior (i understand that C. Long was playing glorified DT, not Leo end).

Gholston had 14 sacks despite what people describe as an inconsistent motor. C. Long had 14 with the greatest motor I have ever seen on a college player. (C. Long is unquestionably the #1 player on my Pats board).

I'm not really sure how to react to Gholston's lack of humility, as reflected in this article. Sometimes great talents aren't shy about their ability, although my preference would be for a more humble player.

The bottom line is that Gholston can get to the QB, is strong at the POA, is very young and still developing, has been very durable, is dedicated in the weight room, and shows up in big games vs good competition. Those are big positives, not easily dismissed.
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Gholston apparently wants to go to a team with a rich Super Bowl history.
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I've definitely soured on Gholston of late. I'd rather have Groves in a trade down scenario. Don't get me wrong, if we draft Gholston, I'll find a way to get excited (for all the reasons Pony mentions above), but right now, I'm hoping somebody else ahead of us takes him.

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I read a piece about Gholston being a humble young man, who carries a Bible with him everywhere he goes. Being confident in your abilities doesn't take away from fact that every other piece I've seen on him has touted his character highly.
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Wow, more people need to read this article. Gholston is one c*cky SOB, sheesh. This definitely makes me think twice about him.
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Wow, more people need to read this article. Gholston is one c*cky SOB, sheesh. This definitely makes me think twice about him.
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Mo,
While I'm not dismissing these negative hits on Gholston, I'm not sure we can take them at face value, considering they come from anonymous sources in the NYdailynews.

Gholston had more sacks over the past 2 seasons than any other Div I player.

Gholston dominated the best competition he faced, Michigan and Wisconsin, and was solid if not spectacular vs LSU. On the LSU game alone I would have rated him a mid to late 1st rdr, because his NFL caliber strength was obvious. For comparison, he made more of an impact vs LSU than Woodley did vs USC last season.

Gholston is only a junior. For comparison C. Long had 4 sacks as a junior (i understand that C. Long was playing glorified DT, not Leo end).

Gholston had 14 sacks despite what people describe as an inconsistent motor. C. Long had 14 with the greatest motor I have ever seen on a college player. (C. Long is unquestionably the #1 player on my Pats board).

I'm not really sure how to react to Gholston's lack of humility, as reflected in this article. Sometimes great talents aren't shy about their ability, although my preference would be for a more humble player.

The bottom line is that Gholston can get to the QB, is strong at the POA, is very young and still developing, has been very durable, is dedicated in the weight room, and shows up in big games vs good competition. Those are big positives, not easily dismissed.
How's he gonna get to the QB from the bench. Where's he gonna most of his time here...this year. 'Cause for $40M+ and $18M guaranteed he's gotta start. Ditto Long, who Mayock says projects to Mike Vrabel which is great but the job isn't quite open yet. Or Ellis.

I just don't think you can draft a project at #7 because they take too much time for the money. Unless you think Vrabel should be the rotational player or move inside or you want AD back inside it makes no sense.

If you have to contort yourself to figure out how something might work, it likely isn't a value move in the first. The Giants beat us up with 4 DL who were superior to our 5 man OL. And the guy they added to their blitz package and used to spell the others down the stretch, what round did they get him in...3rd (74) in 2005. I'd like to see us invest more than late day 2 picks in a developmental LB or situational pass rusher, but not #7.
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How's he gonna get to the QB from the bench. Where's he gonna most of his time here...this year. 'Cause for $40M+ and $18M guaranteed he's gotta start. .
Then whom are you advocating? Albert? Clady? With J Long off the board, I don't think there's a player in the draft who's going to start for us next season.
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