The all-in 1st round scenario - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

Jimke · 04-09-2008, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by patchick

I've been part of the "no CB at #7!" chorus, and I'm not wavering. BUT...a CB after a trade down is a different matter, especially if you can still wrangle yourself a pass rusher. So suppose your goal is to reconstruct the 2 #1s and come away with 2 impact players, and to heck with everything else?

TRADE, swap 1st & 2nd-round picks with Cinci, Bengals take Ellis at #7.
#9: Leodis McKelvin

TRADE: Patriots send #46, #69 and a 2009 3rd to Seattle for #25
#25: Quentin Groves

You then sit for the next 70 picks, but you've added two explosive young talents to lay a new foundation of youth and speed on defense.

Thoughts?

I like your idea. Quality not quantity. New Orleans might be a

better trade partner because they have more salary cap room.

If the Pats are not able to swing this trade, they might be able

to trade their #2 pick plus the Oakland #3 for one of Atlanta's

early 2nd round picks. Atlanta is looking for a trade partner.

SamBamsFan · 04-09-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by patchick

I've been part of the "no CB at #7!" chorus, and I'm not wavering. BUT...a CB after a trade down is a different matter, especially if you can still wrangle yourself a pass rusher. So suppose your goal is to reconstruct the 2 #1s and come away with 2 impact players, and to heck with everything else?

TRADE, swap 1st & 2nd-round picks with Cinci, Bengals take Ellis at #7.
#9: Leodis McKelvin

TRADE: Patriots send #46, #69 and a 2009 3rd to Seattle for #25
#25: Quentin Groves

You then sit for the next 70 picks, but you've added two explosive young talents to lay a new foundation of youth and speed on defense.

Thoughts?

Didn't the Jets do this last year?

***pats1*** · 04-09-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SamBamsFan

Didn't the Jets do this last year?

Yeah, except turn the 70 into about 250.

Jimke · 04-09-2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pats1

Yeah, except turn the 70 into about 250.

The Jets gutted their draft to get two quality players. Even so,

the Jet have six players from the 2007 draft on their roster: four

Jet draftees and two Patriot draftees.

***patchick*** · 04-09-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SamBamsFan

Didn't the Jets do this last year?

Even more dramatically -- they traded up twice, turning 4 (or 5?) picks into 2; this is one trade down and one trade up, turning 3 picks into 2.

***apple strudel*** · 04-09-2008, 05:34 PM

Personally I don't see Groves going that low in the first round - based on his pass-rush abilities alone. If he does, though, 25 is the place to get him if he's available because of Jacksonville. I like Groves, maybe even at #7. BB will have a good scouting report from Saban about him since Alabama played Auburn in the last game of the season last year.

Groves and McKelvin is a draft to die for

- only I don't see it happening. Teams like Minnesota also need a pass rusher and 17 is not too high for Groves. I've also seen McKelvin going at 8 to the Ravens if Ryan doesn't fall since they have such old corners. Very hard scenario to work out.