JoeSixPat

Same rules as the BB best and worst draft thread... best and worst in the 1st three rounds only, of the Bobby Grier Era (not including any overlap with Parcells).

There are actually some pretty tough choices on both sides of that coin - there's a heckuva lotof bad players throughout those drafts, though even the first three rounds presents some tough choices.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/ful...3200&type=team


Tony Simmons or Rod Rutledge might be candidates, if not for the even worse picks of Chris Canty and Andy Katzenmoyer. Its amazing how many bad players were drafted and how high they were drafted.
I think Canty gets the prize as Katzenmoyer's injury or the head games it played with him played a role in that waste of a pick.

On Canty we should have known better.

Best is Kevin Faulk by a mile.

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I don't think it's fair to say that Katzenmoyer was bust because he was pretty good until he got injured. Overall, he had a good rookie season when filling in for Ted Johnson. Had he not suffered that neck injury, I think he would have been a pretty good player.

My pick for worst selection is Chris Canty by far. He didn't do a damn thing in the NFL. Tebucky Jones comes in a close second. He had all the physical tools, just couldn't get it done on the field at a consistant level.

Best pick goes to Kevin Faulk (which we will all agree on). Damien Woody comes in second.

As for Grier/Carrol's grade overall: F

Drafts from 1997-1999 were flat out awful! It's even more pathetic when they had multiple draft picks in round 1 and 2, missing on all of them. Although Kevin Faulk started off his career slow, he is now known as a clutch player.

jeffbiologist

Best--has to be Woody
Worst--Sedrick Shaw, did he even make the team?

State

You're right on the money. I remember a couple of weeks before the disastrous decision to draft the short (and short-armed), SLOW Chris Canty, Pete Carroll was on the radio talking about DBs, his specialty.

If they're short, they'd better be fast. If they big, you can let them not have as blazing speed. It made perfect sense to me, which is why the Bobby Grier BrainDead Reign is symbolized no better than 5'9", 4.7 Chris Canty, going against what Carroll had instructed on DBs. Small and slow won't get the job done in the NFL.

But how's Canty's musical career going?

State

It turns out that Damien Woody has turned out the way Jim O'Brien warned about: very talented but not motivated. Becoming grossly overweight and ineffective & injured at times in Detroit after signing the big contract, Woody lived down to this negative expectation. It is another reason why giving in to big contracts for most players doesn't work. They rest on their laurels and fire up the grill for some home cookin'! Let the waist line begin exploding like Chris Farley's at a Twinkie warehouse.

But for a while there was Drew...behind the biggest Woody I ever did see. And times were good.

I wonder how he'll play for the Jets. Maybe he develop a fire in his belly again.

Jimke

Bobby Grier's drafts showed what can happen if you draft

strictly for need. Tony Simmons, Rod Rutledge, and Chris

Floyd were drafted in 1998 three rounds before they should have

been because the Patriots needed backups at WR, TE, and FB.

All they ever became was backups because they were not very good.

primetime

Canty has had a longer professional football career than many of the Grier era draft picks.

Unfortunately, most of it has been in Arena Football. Two. That's right, the af2, the minor league of Arena Football. The Patriots top pick in the 1997 NFL Draft couldn't even play in the top Arena League.

http://www.arenafan.com/players/Chris_Canty-4804/

Tony Simmons has made a pretty good career for himself in Canada, as well.

captain stone

Small and slow, and with a shyte attitude, def. won't get the job done. I still remember him acting like Ray Lewis even after his man just gained a dozen yards on him. To his credit, Wrong Bogus described Can'tHe, the day after the draft, as a "slow dwarf". Before the draft, he wrote that if you asked Booby Grier about Sam Madison, you might as well have been asking about James Madison. And didn't Can'tHe one night get drunk, the December before the draft, and wreck his car? That punk was a walking, talking Red Flag.

But wait, there's more. Same draft: Brandon Mitchell - declining production in college, mediocre pro...and Jason Taylor was available. Sedrick Shaw, instead of Duce Staley. Chris Carter, instead of Mike Vrabel. 1998: Instead of fortifying the DL and OL with Vonnie Holliday and Alan Faneca, Booby chooses a RB short on experience but long on injuries, and a CB who had absolutely no experience as a CB. In the second round, he chooses a track star pretending to be a WR, and a TE with hands of stone, exc. when he's slipping dollar bills into a stripper's thong. In the third round, another mediocre RB is taken, as well as Greg Spires, who turned out to be their best pick of the entire draft. In 1999, Booby finally started to not blow the draft completely out his cornhole, exc. when he chose Tony George in the 3rd round, a Safety who was built like a CB and ran like a LB, and who was diabetic.

Good times, good times...

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Jimke

Grier turned one of the best 53 man rosters in the NFL into

the absolute worst in three years. This is why a team can't

afford to screw up very many drafts.

captain stone

I hope the current FO realizes this, also.

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