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Old 03-04-2011, 08:44 AM   #31
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Guys - the original premise of the thread was college tackles that could start at tackle in the NFL and could also start at G in the NFL, not college tackles that aren't good enough to start at tackle in the NFL and thus be converted to G out of necessity.
...plus the requirement that he be able to start at guard immediately. I gave you four names, what do you think of them?

Clint Boling
James Carpenter
Jason Pinkston
Stephen Schilling

(Marcus Cannon is intriguing too, I just have trouble picturing the Pats biting on a 358-lb OG.)
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Old 03-04-2011, 09:34 AM   #32
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...plus the requirement that he be able to start at guard immediately. I gave you four names, what do you think of them?

Clint Boling
James Carpenter
Jason Pinkston
Stephen Schilling

(Marcus Cannon is intriguing too, I just have trouble picturing the Pats biting on a 358-lb OG.)
Personally, I don't see any of Boling, Pinkston, or Schilling ever playing OT at the next level, much less being able to start there right away. Pinkston is the one that stands out to me as most likely able to be plugged in as a starting G right away, although like you I'm very intrigued by Cannon's potential if he can keep from eating his signing bonus.
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Guys - the original premise of the thread was college tackles that could start at tackle in the NFL and could also start at G in the NFL, not college tackles that aren't good enough to start at tackle in the NFL and thus be converted to G out of necessity. The former is much more difficult to identify than the latter.
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...plus the requirement that he be able to start at guard immediately. I gave you four names, what do you think of them?

Clint Boling
James Carpenter
Jason Pinkston
Stephen Schilling

(Marcus Cannon is intriguing too, I just have trouble picturing the Pats biting on a 358-lb OG.)
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Personally, I don't see any of Boling, Pinkston, or Schilling ever playing OT at the next level, much less being able to start there right away. Pinkston is the one that stands out to me as most likely able to be plugged in as a starting G right away, although like you I'm very intrigued by Cannon's potential if he can keep from eating his signing bonus.
Yes, I was bemusedly thinking the same thing, Brother Dog.

The fact is ~ as I summarized, earlier in this thread ~ that very few stalwart O Tackles make stalwart O Guards, and Vice Versa.

I like Boling, Pinkston, AND Schilling, and consider Carpenter an intriguing Project...But I wouldn't want ANY of them to play a DAY at O Tackle...And I consider Boling, Schilling, and Carpenter to have "Good" UpSide, only, whereas I, in the wake of the PlayOff debacles against the Giants, Ravens, and Jets, am dead set on getting "GREAT" at Right Guard. Pinkston has a shot at "Excellent", and I might be persuaded to consider that.
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Who among the OT's is ready to start (if Light isn't re-signed), and is also ready to start ot OG if Light comes back?
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Draftek now has Pinkston at #33, after having Costonzo at #17.
Pinkston at #92 not #33!

My conversion choices are Gabe Carimi #28, or Marcus Cannon #33, or Clint Boling or Benjamin Ijalana #60 and late rounds DeMarcus Love andor Derek Hall

I’d like the Pats take at least three OL and hope they draft either John Moffit #74 or Brandon Fusco #124 both could move from C to G.
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AGAIN, with the Conversions!!

I suppose it's MY fault, for introducing the notion in Reply #1!!
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Does anyone think Light could make the transition inside to guard if they spend one of their top 3 picks on a tackle. Resign him with the understanding he would move to guard would provide stability on the line as well as insurance if the tackle needs time to get up to speed. I tried bringing this up in another thread but it turned into a battle of interpreting BB's words.

He does have the size BB likes at guard. Light at 6'4 305 is the same size as Neal and 5 pounds lighter than Mankins.
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Does anyone think Light could make the transition inside to guard if they spend one of their top 3 picks on a tackle. Resign him with the understanding he would move to guard would provide stability on the line as well as insurance if the tackle needs time to get up to speed. I tried bringing this up in another thread but it turned into a battle of interpreting BB's words.

He does have the size BB likes at guard. Light at 6'4 305 is the same size as Neal and 5 pounds lighter than Mankins.
I believe Light would be successful at LG; however, despite his age and his beloved status as a NE fan base whipping boy, he retains significant NFL value as a starting LT and NE's bid to return him as a Guard would be easily outbid. I expect him back and I doubt NE goes OT high unless it's a T/G candidate in the second or third rounds.
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I believe Light would be successful at LG; however, despite his age and his beloved status as a NE fan base whipping boy, he retains significant NFL value as a starting LT and NE's bid to return him as a Guard would be easily outbid. I expect him back and I doubt NE goes OT high unless it's a T/G candidate in the second or third rounds.
You're probably right, my thinking was that he has had problems with speed edge rushers in the past and will be 33 when and if the season starts. Moving him inside would obviously make that less of a concern.
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While we're talking OL: Tulane Pro-Day
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OT Pete Hendrickson: (6-foot-7 3/8, 304 pounds) — He ran the 40-yard dash in 5.04 seconds with the wind and 5.14 against it, 4.62 in the short shuttle and 7.28 in the 3-cone drill. He also had a 32-inch vertical jump, a 9-4 broad jump and did 25 bench-press repetitions at 225 pounds.
Okay, here's the interesting part:
-- Vollmer, Mankins, Kaczur were all college Left Tackles.
-- All were from Mid-Major, Non-AQ conferences.
-- All were First Team All-Conference their senior season.

Hendrickson misses those marks by "only" being All-Conference Honorable Mention, while putting up athletic marks competitive with the top Tackles at the Combine (and Vollmer's Pro-Day scores).
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