Dufflebagz

Before you go crazy about the title of the thread, just read.

With the talk about finding Brady's replacement I thought this would be a decent discussion to start.

Lets pretend Newton falls to #17 (or even #28 for arguments sake), he is obviously a physical freak of nature and has a lot of potential but also a lot of risk. 4+ years behind Brady could be a godsend for any QB and one who already has those kind of skills....just think about it.

Personally I am opposed to this idea, OLB, DE, and OL first please. I want to hear what you guys think about taking Newton (still pretending that he drops that far).

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Sciz

My reaction is the same as when somebody made the same thread about Dane Locker. The only difference is that Newton is likely a top-5 pick, where (Jake) Locker doesn't belong in the first.

ctpatsfan77

If he falls to #17, teams will likely be falling all over themselves trying to reach Foxboro.

Keep in mind that for Brady's four most recent seasons as a starter, his primary backup has been making <$750K/yr. The #17 pick gets >$2M/yr.

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Mogamedogz

Not a fan of Newton AT ALL.. But this could be moot if a Rookie Wage scale is in place next season. It's a CBA bullet point that I am all but certain the players union will be willing to concede if the owners back off of some of the other proposals.

BelichickFan

I'd find a new team to root for if that scumbag were leading the Patriots. No thanks.

We cleaned up the locker room and you want this :

Cam Newton, Lame Laptop Thief | The Smoking Gun

Not a chance in hell for me.

MaineMan

If you're talking about Newton being brought aboard as Brady's eventual replacement, I think that's problematic whether Newton is drafted at #17 or #74. And it has nothing to do with Newton's talent, which I happen to think is pretty good.

Newton would have to be on the 53-man along with Hoyer and he'd be effectively red-shirted like Taylor Price was this season. Definitely not inconceivable. But the reason I think he'd need to be red-shirted is that his current effectiveness is 50% based in what he can do with his legs. Yeah, he has shown some raw ability as a drop-back passer, but it seems obvious (to me, at least) that this part of his game is going to need a lot of work.

Meanwhile, there would be severe constraints on how useful his current skillset would be, mainly because there are only so many practice reps to go around. Practice reps attempting to make effective use of Newton and his current skillset would involve everyone on the offense. It would affect blocking schemes, WR patterns, pretty much everything. The Pats would either be spending about as much time on plays involving Newton as they spend practicing any "trick play", or they'd have to be taking practice reps away from their base offense/gameplan - especially Hoyer's reps (including even scout team reps).

I'm not saying that this is impossible, just impractical. Seems to me that, for his first year at least, he'd be effectively a P/S (or IR) player taking a spot on the 53-man. Again, citing Price (or even Kaczur or Fred Taylor), the Pats showed some willingness this past season to do exactly this with certain players, at least on offense - so, not impossible. Just saying that this circumstance would need to be accounted for in final 2011 roster calculations.

SONS_OF_BELICHICK

Cam Newton is way overrated. He is a young Donovan McNabb.....getting ready to barf up a storm....

Shelterdog

If you knew that Newton was going to have McNabb's career he'd get drafted first overall no questions asked. You're talking about a borderline hall of fame candidate there.

Wilfork#75

I dont think Newton will come close to Donovan McNabb. He might have physical talent but the guy will never become even an average QB in the NFL. I know people like to turn athletes into football players and dream on their potential, but turning athletes into QB's is rediculous, especailly for the Pats. Being a QB in the NFL, especially in the Pats system is one of the most complex roles in sports, being a super athlete isn't going to help you in your progressions or help you read defensive schemes. If this topic were in three years time with a QB prospect that actually has a chance to succeed I might be interested, but Cam Newton in 2011, no chance.

I dont want to sound like im bashing Dufflebagz here because this isnt a personal attack on the thread, im just confused as to how this guy is a top QB prospect. If he was a late round flier for a team sure, but as a 1st round pick? I know Tim Tebow went in the first round and he wasn't as physically gifted as Newton, but that guy was a born leader and a winner. Would I have drafted him in the first round? no, but I can see why a team did, he's got a spark. I dont see that with Newton. Sure he won a National Title, but he wasn't the leader or the inspiration to his team that Tebow, or even Vince Young was. I see him as Vince Young 2.0, a guy thats going to make a highlight reel play occasionally to get ESPN excited, but overall he will be a mediocre QB. He's a great college player no doubt, but any team considering him in the first round is crazy.

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bucky

Cam Newton = Tim Tebow + Stronger Arm - Intangibles.

Pass.