NEfan32

Everyone is saying, the Pats will trade the pick, which should be a top 5 pick, likely top 3. Let's say it stays at number 2 for argument's sake.

What past history do we have to go that we will trade a top 5 pick on? Nothing. BB took Richard Seymour with a top 6 pick. When we had a number 1 pick, we took Drew Bledsoe. Top 10 picks are supposed to be franchise players, and you don't trade that away. Anyone who says they won't pick in the top is basing that on nothing.

It will be almost impossible to trade out of the top 5. The point value for the 2nd overall pick is 3200. For those who want to trade the pick to Dallas for Clevelands pick and their own, that point total is only around 1500. Not even close. Why would we trade down within the top 5 either? No sense in that unless you get 2-3 extra picks.

Pats don't want to pay the high pick money? Once again, says who? The Pats have paid their players the money. I don't think they will give a JaMarcus Russell-like deal, but they will give a fair deal.

The Pats just don't draft in the top 10. That sounds like a load of crap. They just haven't had to. They usually trade picks also because they don't see the talent or they feel they are getting a good deal (ala this pick for the 28th pick).

Everyone saying they won't draft the pick is basing that on nothing. They may trade the pick, but it will be hard unless they are getting an all-pro player back along with picks. Not every team has the chance to grab a franchise guy, and no team ever in the NFL has had the oppurtunity to grab a franchise guy in the draft after being the best team in the NFL. Why pass it up?

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VJCPatriot

Actually you make a pretty good point. Let's say San Fran's pick ends up #2 overall. Should you really give up a lot of point value when trading that pick just for the sake of moving down? I don't think so. However if the Pats can trade down to say #5 or #6 where the money is a little better, and get FAIR VALUE (in the form of extra picks or players) doing it, and still get their franchise player at the lower spot, then that deal makes a lot of sense. But only if it presents FAIR VALUE, otherwise just bite the bullet and draft that stud player. You don't get the chance to do so very often.

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PatsSteve1

Anyone who says what the Patriots will do either way really isn't basing it on anything but a guess. Unless BBioli told you personally - Actually saying they may trade the pick isn't based completely on nothing. Kraft has said high 1st round picks are too expensive for the chance you take on a player that hasn't proven anything yet. I doubt he thought of that on his own.

Remix 6

we took Seymour at 6 but did we have a roster like we do today? Our roster is more expensive than its ever been as it is

NEfan32

So is every team. Miami has a 100 million payroll. Who are they paying?

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"Randy Moss is a player whose skills are diminishing, and he's in denial of those eroding skills. Randy was a great receiver, but he lacked the work ethic and the desire to cultivate any skills that would compensate for what he was losing physically later in his career."

-Tom Walsh

98 Rec, 1493 yards, 23 TD
69 Rec, 1008 yards, 11 TD
83 Rec, 1264 yards, 13 TD

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spacecrime

If the Patriots draft a top five player, he will immediately become the highest paid player on the team, making more than Brady and Seymour. This will disrupt the salary distribution.

It is fine to say we won't give out a deal like other teams, but the fact is that salaries and bonuses are slotted. If you try to pay the #2 pick less that what the #3 is receiving, the guy will simply hold out. Then you either collapse, or the guy goes back into the draft next year and the Pats get zilch for their pick.

The only way I see the Pats picking in the top five is if a true rare player is available, say a WMG type that can play elephant OLB for the Pats. That pick would be great in six-eight years looking for Brady's replacement. It will be an albatross next year. I'm now rooting for the 49ers to win a few games and get that pick down to the 7-12 range.

NEfan32

You summed it up for me. Why would you trade for the sake of trading? I am high on McFadden, so if McFadden is there at 2, you take him. But if you want Long or that LB with the long last name, and you feel you can get him at 4-6, then trade down,

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"Randy Moss is a player whose skills are diminishing, and he's in denial of those eroding skills. Randy was a great receiver, but he lacked the work ethic and the desire to cultivate any skills that would compensate for what he was losing physically later in his career."

-Tom Walsh

98 Rec, 1493 yards, 23 TD
69 Rec, 1008 yards, 11 TD
83 Rec, 1264 yards, 13 TD

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RussFrancis

Ill tell you why you trade the pick. NE is undefeated, unstoppable, and possibly the greatest team in the history of football. They dont need a single pick, let alone a top 2 pick. But you mean to tell me, with this team full of studs and all-time players, you take a college player, completely unproven at the pro level, and give him probably the BIGGEST contract on the team??? Im just telling you, rationally, that's not going to happen.

Brady to Brown

Anyone who pretends that they know what Belichick would do with a top 3 pick.......Is pretending they know what Belichick would do with a top 3 pick.

PatsSteve1

So you want to make this unproven player the highest or 1 of the top 3 highest paid players on the team? What do you think Wilfork other proven players on the team will want then?