GoWesleyan

I've always thought Koppen was an above average starting center. Is kalil considered to be MUCH better? How is Kalil rated vs Mangold last year?

I ask because Pat Kirwan (among others) has us picking Kalil at 28. I personally don't know why we'd do that. I can't see either Kalil or Koppen being an upgrade over Neal at guard.

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patsfan-1982

i think koppen is a probowler at center i would not take kalil at 28 but im not scott pioli lol any way i think mangold is better then kalil and he will be a 2th rounder

Box_O_Rocks

Mangold is considered to have a firmer base than Kalil (bigger butt and thicker legs) Kalil is considered to be the better technician. Koppen was a good technician coming out of BC. Kalil seems to be much of a class with Koppen. I'd consider Koppen a first round value knowing what we know about him now, so when Mayock and others grade Kalil as a first round Center, I have no quibble. I believe Koppen could slide over and play Guard if needed, based on that, I think Kalil could too. If the choice was taking Kalil in the first or "reaching" into the second for a LB/CB/S/DE/WR, I'd probably reach, but I won't deny he is decent value at the end of round one.

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