dryheat44

Not Taylor. Parcells was a rookie head coach then. The GM, George Young, drafted Taylor, Carl Banks, and the rest of the foundation of those Super Bowl teams. It's hard to give too much credit for drafting Taylor anyway...he was a known commodity that 27 teams would have drafted first overall.

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StraightCashHomey81

So what do you think the cut-off point for the 3-4 OLB is for bill. 6-4 or 6-5?
4.6, 4.65. 4.7. This eliminated the supposed "football players" like Ayers, English, and E. Brown etc., but would put slightly lower rated guys like Barwin and Kruger higher up this list. How much does length have to do with it? Why is it that AD is ok at OLB, because of his freakish long arms?

Guys supposed to go high in next's years draft that fit this mold are Texas DE/OLB Sergio Kindle, BC's Mark Herzlich (he'd be AWESOME, and i'm no BC fanboy) USF's George Selvie (long-time production, skinny legs like Crable) and 6'5 285 Florida DE Carlos Dunlap (Peppers-esque?)

ayjackson

Tuna didn't draft Ware either. Jerry Jones drafted him. Tuna wanted Spears...and got him later in the first. Score one for Jerry Jones.

sg14

Per Clayton, the Pats would have picked L. English if he lasted to 23,,as stated on his Seattle AM radio show,

How he knows that, I don't know,

A caller complained that the Chargers took English too high, and Clayton said the Pats were ready for him at 23.

SunnyDenmark

Interesting to hear (about Clayton saying BB would have taken English at #23). But I am not sure I am buying it - Isn't Clayton the one that was reporting all about Pats getting Peppers? Which (while a great player) doesn't fits BB way of cap management (not too top heavy), locker room balance in pay (strong middle class) and draft philosophy (would have to give up high picks to trade for Pepper).

So not sure Clayton is the best source for Pats info....But thanks for the source anyway as I had not seen that reported before.

JoeShmoe

Who looks good at bottom for first in next years draft for BB's tall type OLB?

Selvie maybe?

dryheat44

If Belichick were targeting English at @23, there's no way that Mr. PC would know...even a couple of weeks later. Really, if anything, that means that NE bluffed SD into taking English, but I really don't think that's true either. Just a case of an "insider" trying to prove that he's an insider by stating things that cannot be disproven.

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sg14

The only way Clayton would have heard would be thru some other team that the Pats talked to, to move up a few spots,,

You're right can't be proven, either way.

His radio show here in Seattle is very very popular, with alot of relocated NFL fans calling in.

I don't particularly like the guy, but he does have connections. He has been covering the NFL for a long time. Talk about making up a nice job for yourself.

On another aspect, did you see on that Patriots All Access they showed BB whealing and dealing, seems like part of that dialog, if I am going to give you my draft pick, then you have to tell me who you're drafting. So seems logical that BB at some point could have told someone who he was after. We'll never know.

dryheat44

I thought the same thing, and then I thought, "why wouldn't you lie?" If you tell a team who you're looking to draft, that team should call all other teams that may be interested and see if they can't get more.

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mayoclinic

I can't see 290# Carlos Dunlap as an OLB. I like Herzlich as a player, but am not sure he fits well at OLB. He's more of a 4-3 SLB, or possible an ILB for the 3-4. Besides Kindle (phenomenal speed) there's 6'5" 265# Greg Hardy, 6'4" 245# Brandon Lang, and 6'5" 265# Greg Romeus. Eric Norwood is a terrific player, but at 6' 265# he would project to SILB for us (where I think he would be a stud; he's great taking on blockers and at both rushing hte passer and dropping into coverage, and has a terrific nose for the football).

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