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Perhaps part of my love for Butler is because of how poorly the rest of this year's crop disappointed, but that's precisely why his value is in that late 1st round. And fwiw I like Hobbs, so I see the comparisons as a good thing!
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Perhaps part of my love for Butler is because of how poorly the rest of this year's crop disappointed, but that's precisely why his value is in that late 1st round. And fwiw I like Hobbs, so I see the comparisons as a good thing!
I like Butler. But making him a 1st rounder because everyone else disappointed doesn't make sense to me. You either think he's a 1st round caliber talent, or you don't. I think he's a solid early 2nd rounder in the same general league as Alphonso Smith and Sean Smith. I downgrade the position because of need. Because of his combine performance he's the least likely to last until where I would consider a CB. That's all. If you want to spend a mid-to-late 2nd rounder on a replacement for Hobbs after next year, and Butler's still available, then I don't have a problem with it.
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There's a top 15-20 prospects in this years draft and after that it's a crap shoot in that 20-50 range. The guy you get at 20 could be the same/near the value at 50. The position of most depth in that 20-50 range is OLB. So if you have a CB who IMO stands out among the rest it's hard to pass that up. Others may feel that way about a particular WR or whatever.
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Id go ILB with the 23rd pick, If Barwin is still available 4 or 5 picks later package up for him and draft him. If not take another OLB with the 34th pick then package up and move up for Delmas or Moore.
Moore should be available at 47 without a trade-up. However, I have no problem with trading up for the safety we want. I believe that a top one will be available at 47 or even at 58. I like Chung and Rashad Johnson because of their special team play, essential for a backup safety.
With regard to an ILB at 23, what ILB do you think is worth the pick?
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Id go ILB with the 23rd pick, If Barwin is still available 4 or 5 picks later package up for him and draft him. If not take another OLB with the 34th pick then package up and move up for Delmas or Moore.
Id go ILB with the 23rd pick, If Barwin is still available 4 or 5 picks later package up for him and draft him. If not take another OLB with the 34th pick then package up and move up for Delmas or Moore.
So Id go ILB, OLB, S
There is only 1 ILB in this draft that grades out as a first day pick and that is Rey
[QUOTE=Patriot Missile;1333464]There is only 1 ILB in this draft that grades out as a first day pick and that is Rey Maualuga. He'd have to fall to 23 or we would have to reade up for him. Do you like James Laurinaitis in the first round?
I agree that a S that we like is more likely to drop to 47 than an olb or
a 3-4 de. That's why I'd like to go Barwin in the 1st and J.Gilbert at 34.
Good chance Delmas,Moore,Chung,S.Smith and R.Johnson on board at
34. If we grade them pretty evenly, we can sit and get one at 47. Like
we did with Crable last year. Trade 1st 3rd rounder and get the guy you
wanted later anyway. If BB getting antsy between 34 and 47 he can always
use 4th rounder(will have trouble making team anyway) to move up.
I think a draft like this is feasible;
1 C.Barwin - olb
2a J.Gilbert - de
2b P.Chung -ss (Maybe W.Moore)
2c E.Wood - c/g (Maybe J.Luigis)
3a ?? wr or trade for 2nd rounder in 2010.
3b Can't trade J.Brinkley??
I agree that a S that we like is more likely to drop to 47 than an olb or
a 3-4 de. That's why I'd like to go Barwin in the 1st and J.Gilbert at 34.
Good chance Delmas,Moore,Chung,S.Smith and R.Johnson on board at
34. If we grade them pretty evenly, we can sit and get one at 47. Like
we did with Crable last year. Trade 1st 3rd rounder and get the guy you
wanted later anyway. If BB getting antsy between 34 and 47 he can always
use 4th rounder(will have trouble making team anyway) to move up.
I think a draft like this is feasible;
1 C.Barwin - olb
2a J.Gilbert - de
2b P.Chung -ss (Maybe W.Moore)
2c E.Wood - c/g (Maybe J.Luigis)
3a ?? wr or trade for 2nd rounder in 2010.
3b Can't trade J.Brinkley??