patsfan13

Don't care what order these are the guys I want at 23 & 34:

One thing that BB wants that we can't judge, do they love the game, that was the thing that strikes me about Mayo he has that love of the game and desire that Rodney & Tedy has.

I am impressed that Barwin went from TE to DE to help the team in many cases this would hurt your chances to get drafted.

YouTube - DE Connor Barwin Highlights Cincinnati 2008


Smith is a guy I want to see at Safety, great size 6' 3" 214lbs 4.47 and good hands.

YouTube - SEAN SMITH NFL COMBINE (this kid is big and fast!)

YouTube - Sean Smith - LEGENDary interception


ILB and OT later in the second rd.

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CampPen33

I am with you on this one about Connor Barwin.

I even posted that YouTube video on my blog. They really should get him. The question is if they need to use the 23rd pick on him or not?

If they think they can get him at 34, they may trade up to get OL or ILB?

What you think?

He available at 34? Smith available at 34?

BelichickFan

The reason I disagree is the depth at OLB is so much stronger than at ILB, if we can get Maualuga I would take him and take my chances on a good OLB at #34 or, if you use #34 for Smith, with 2b.

BelichickFan

Maualuga and Barwin at 23 and 34 would make for an interestingly young LB group for sure. I think Smith has a chance to be there at 2b if you really want him, it's a deep draft.

Patriot Missile

I would love that combo and I'd be ok with drafting any of the top safeties at 47. However we all know Maualuga is not going to to last to 23. We would have to move up to get him and everyone knows it.

ctpatsfan77

"Everyone knew" Matt Cassel was going to go for at least a first-round draft pick, too.

You can never be sure what's going to happen when individual psychologies/psychopathologies get involved (see: Quinn, Brady).

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BelichickFan

I wouldn't say I expect Maualuga to be there but, for example, Mike Lombardi has him totally out of the first round. We could always trade a #3 or #4 to move up a bit as we'd still have the three #2s and a #3 if we traded our own #3 but in this deep draft I am not sure it's that definite he'll be gone.

mayoclinic

I like both of them. Barwin has been my binky for almost 6 months now. Nothing to be added. I'm happy with him at either 23 or 34.

I like Sean Smith and was one of the first to champion him on this board. He has tremendous agility for his size. I've backed away from him a little bit recently because I see us needing S more than CB and I'm not sure Smith has the physical safety mentality, but he would definitely be in the mix at 47 along with Delmas, Moore and Chung. I would be happy with any of those guys at 47.

My current preference is Barwin at 23, Beatty at 34 (or in reverse order) and one of the 4 safeties at 47, with Delmas being my favorite and Smith a close second. Maualuga would be worth considering, as would Robert Ayers, who I think could move inside to SILB. If we get any combination of those guys, I would be ecstatic. If that happened, I would consider Eric Wood OG/C, Jarron Gilbert DE, or James Casey TE at #58 if they were still available, otherwise I would trade #58 into 2010.

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b72s

Barwin looks like a youngr Vrabel............

Question is how sure will this convert to Pro vs. USC LBs

Sean Smith looks very good I do not see him lasting past our 1st 2nd round pick

patsfan13

Kirwin thinks that Smith has the 'Safety Mentality', I think with the number of multiple WR sets, I want a safety with good cover skills (like Merriweather).


As to Maualuga, he is reported to have a 15 Wonderlic score if this is true I don't him being a guy who can pick up schemes week to week the way you have to with the Pats.

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