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Re: A little early, but: should the Patriots try to re-sign Wes Welker?
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Originally Posted by JarOfMayo51
I never said he would be a replacement for Welker, I said he would replace some of his production for a lot less money.
Again, do you pay Welker $10M/YR for 110+ catches, or do you pay Edelmen $1-2M/YR for 90 catches and use those savings to strengthen the team in other areas?
In the last three seasons, Julian Edelman has totaled 32 pass receptions. In the last three seasons, Julian Edelman has missed eleven games.
Wes Welker has missed only four regular season games in his entire career.
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Originally Posted by JarOfMayo51
What helps the team more:
Wes Welker
or
Aqib Talib + Danny Woodhead?
Granted Woodhead may not be a great example because our RB position is very deep, but I think that Woodhead is a special player for us and is often undervalued. Hes like a white version of Kevin Faulk, he always seems to be able to gash defenses for huge chunks of yardage and is a great 3rd down back. Demps and Vereen though could be used to replace his production as a tandem, but Woodhead is a great player.
The market for top flight cornerbacks is now 5 years, $50 million. A second tier cornerback such as Richard Marshall received a 3 year, $16 million contract from the Miami Dolphins in March 2012. The New England Patriots have three cornerbacks under contract (McCourty, Dennard, Dowling) while only one true wide receiver under contract (Lloyd) for the 2013 NFL Season.
As for Danny Woodhead, the New England Patriots have four halfbacks (Ridley, Bolden, Vereen, Demps) and two fullbacks (Larsen, Fiammetta) already under contract for the 2013 NFL Season.
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Wes Welker has missed only four regular season games in his entire career.
The market for top flight cornerbacks is now 5 years, $50 million. A second tier cornerback such as Richard Marshall received a 3 year, $16 million contract from the Miami Dolphins in March 2012. The New England Patriots have three cornerbacks under contract (McCourty, Dennard, Dowling) while only one true wide receiver under contract (Lloyd) for the 2013 NFL Season.
As for Danny Woodhead, the New England Patriots have four halfbacks (Ridley, Bolden, Vereen, Demps) and two fullbacks (Larsen, Fiammetta) already under contract for the 2013 NFL Season.
IMO - I got a feeling that Welker will be back with the Patriots in 2013 season. Whether that is another tag, or a multi-yr contract, I dont know....
As for this thread, throwing out other Patriots comparison, such as Talib+Woodhead, etc.. makes not sense in terms of the question of sign or not sign Welker.
A NFL players value (a key component) is based on their past productivity, of course. So, has Welker's play over each sequential years drop?
Re: A little early, but: should the Patriots try to re-sign Wes Welker?
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Originally Posted by zipster9
A NFL players value (a key component) is based on their past productivity, of course. So, has Welker's play over each sequential years drop?
Aside from future Hall-of-Fame wide receiver Randy Moss, consider all the wide receiver failures via the draft, trade, free agency since the 2003 NFL Season:
Bethel Johnson
P.K. Sam
Chad Jackson
Reche Caldwell
Jabar Gaffney
Doug Gabriel
"Bam" Childress
Donte Stallworth
Kelley Washington
Sam Aiken
Joey Galloway
Torry Holt
Brandon Tate
Taylor Price
Chad Ochostinko
Tiquan Underwood
Jeremy Ebert
Greg Salas
Yet some posters insist that Wes Welker is replaceable when ten seasons worth of evidence is contrary to that fact.
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Re: A little early, but: should the Patriots try to re-sign Wes Welker?
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Originally Posted by ATippett56
Aside from future Hall-of Fame wide receiver Randy Moss, consider all the wide receiver failures via the draft, trade, free agency since the 2003 NFL Season:
Bethel Johnson
P.K. Sam
Chad Jackson
Reche Caldwell
Jabar Gaffney
Doug Gabriel
Donte Stallworth
Kelley Washington
Sam Aiken
Joey Galloway
Torry Holt
Brandon Tate
Taylor Price
Chad Ochostinko
Tiquan Underwood
Jeremy Ebert
Yet some posters insist that Wes Welker is replaceable when ten seasons worth of evidence is contrary to that fact.
It's mystifying. It seems like the word "slot" clouds some people's minds about Welker.
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Re: A little early, but: should the Patriots try to re-sign Wes Welker?
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Originally Posted by zipster9
IMO - I got a feeling that Welker will be back with the Patriots in 2013 season. Whether that is another tag, or a multi-yr contract, I dont know....
As for this thread, throwing out other Patriots comparison, such as Talib+Woodhead, etc.. makes not sense in terms of the question of sign or not sign Welker.
A NFL players value (a key component) is based on their past productivity, of course. So, has Welker's play over each sequential years drop?
It make all the sense in the world and needs to be factored into the discussion. If you will have $14m in cap space in 2013, how do you get WW, Talib and Vollmer all on the 2013 roster? You can't. Unless there is some magic cap maneuvering done or major hometown discounts granted, 1 of the 3 will not be on the 2013 roster. That is a fact.
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Re: A little early, but: should the Patriots try to re-sign Wes Welker?
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Originally Posted by JarOfMayo51
Getting rid of Welker doesn't make the production go from awesome to zero, it just goes down.
Obviously it's up to Belichick to try and figure out the best path to success, but for me it isn't necessarily as much about replacing productivity as it is trying to replace the chemistry with Brady and the offense, not to mention the nose for the chains and insane toughness. For me it's the reliability that defines Welker. Reliability and Durability...In those areas we will certainly take a severe hit no matter who steps in to try to fill the role.
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Re: A little early, but: should the Patriots try to re-sign Wes Welker?
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Originally Posted by ATippett56
Aside from future Hall-of-Fame wide receiver Randy Moss, consider all the wide receiver failures via the draft, trade, free agency since the 2003 NFL Season:
Bethel Johnson
P.K. Sam
Chad Jackson
Reche Caldwell
Jabar Gaffney
Doug Gabriel
"Bam" Childress
Donte Stallworth
Kelley Washington
Sam Aiken
Joey Galloway
Torry Holt
Brandon Tate
Taylor Price
Chad Ochostinko
Tiquan Underwood
Jeremy Ebert
Greg Salas
Yet some posters insist that Wes Welker is replaceable when ten seasons worth of evidence is contrary to that fact.
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Re: A little early, but: should the Patriots try to re-sign Wes Welker?
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