Joker

That's not the point of this thread though...look at the title...the OP puts this all on Brady...like Brady is blabbing his big mouth off about being the best of all time...and Mr OP is going to tell HIM how it's going to be...these threads all vomit forth from the same inane little ego mad know-it-all.

Here's a newsflash...Tom Brady has NEVER EVER said he expects, would expect, should expect or wants everyone to expect that HE be called the greatest of all time. This is complete garbage. It's put out there by some clownboy with a hater agenda who thinks he's going to slyly establish parameters that have yet to be reached as THE demarcation point in any ongoing discussion

What this "Kid" should have stated from the start is that this thread is HIS idea of what Tom Brady has to do to be considered the all time great....and to carry this even further, "Kid" Brady is a totally insulting,trollboy logon. Brady is not anybody's "kid", nor is he a "kid". He is a 12 year veteran of the NFL who has PROVEN what kind of man he is a hundred times over. In prison, you call someone a kid it's the same as calling them a punk...it's the same on the street.

Brady has been the best quarterback in Patriots history, without question. That is good enough for me.

Now..as far as YOU go, Aqua4ever...I happen to remember the last time YOU were seen on these threads back in 2009...before you were ERASED from the membership. I also remember your pathologically driven "Dan Marino is the greatest QB of all time with out question!!!" platform and your incessant reference to Brady as "just a kid". Well, let me just say this, Don Noringo is a smug, jealous ,narcissistic has been and..."it's too bad that Dan won't get his ring"...

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lurker1965

Dear Kid, and all you young uns,

Brady, Montana, etc. are not even close to best all time.

#3 Is Bart Starr; Yes, only 2 Super Bowls but several NFL championships before the Super Bowls -I think 5 total.
Hall of Famers » BART STARR

#2 Otto Graham; 10 year career, each year in a championship game and won 7 of them. (The first 4 were in the AAFC a competitor that merged with NFL in 1952 after Otto's Cleveland Browns won the only 4, then were in the next six, winning 3)
Hall of Famers » OTTO GRAHAM

#1 Slingin' Sammy Baugh; Screw championships - although he has a few - he change the position of QB from one of 4 guys that might run the ball into the guy who might pass it. (Even his number, 33, is RB number.)
Hall of Famers » SAMMY BAUGH

If Brady changes the TACTICS of the game, he might surpass Baugh.

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I've seen 1-15 and 2-14 twice. I've seen the Patriots as relevant underdogs, hated favorites, and absolutely irrelevant. Hated is not the best, but it far, far, far from the worst.

lurker1965

F_CK _FF. Would you like to buy a vowel?

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I've seen 1-15 and 2-14 twice. I've seen the Patriots as relevant underdogs, hated favorites, and absolutely irrelevant. Hated is not the best, but it far, far, far from the worst.

lurker1965

Dear Idiot,

In any subject one can tell when someone is full of crap. They use universals. Yes, EVERY ONE of them.

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I've seen 1-15 and 2-14 twice. I've seen the Patriots as relevant underdogs, hated favorites, and absolutely irrelevant. Hated is not the best, but it far, far, far from the worst.

Pats1989

Sorry but when you lose two super bowls to Eli Manning, you are not the best. Joe was simply great in his super bowls and never threw a pick. With one minute left in the game and down by a score, I use to feel Brady would lead us to victory. Now, not as much anymore. The last few years he has struggled in the playoffs and I cannot get over losing two Super Bowls and having Eli outperform him. No he is not the best even if he wins a few more!!

TommyBrady12

except Joe lost 2 NFC championship games. not so clutch, huh?

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"He’s the greatest quarterback to ever play the game. He goes from being a rookie that nobody is expecting anything from, to taking over with people saying he can’t do it, to winning three Super Bowls....It should already be obvious he’s the greatest quarterback to ever have played. "

- Steelers S Troy Polamalu on Tom Brady

Pats1989

Tom Brady is not the greatest of all time. Joe Montana is. do you agree or disagree with this? Fact: Joe won 4. Fact: Brady won 3. Fact: 4 is one more than 3. I do not care about getting to more Super Bowls than Montana. I care about Wins. Also, people will remember two lost Super Bowls over NFC title games.

Kid~Brady

True.

But I hate when people say that another quarterback "outplayed" Brady. If Brady had to play against our defense last year, the last ranked pass defense, what do you think he'd do to them?

Eli outplayed the defense.

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OMGWTFJUDD

I'm not sure any answer to the OP can be tested sufficiently to satisfy anyone.

All I know is that whilst Brady has been at the Pat's they've gone from a team that nobody takes much notice of to being the side everyone want's to beat. He didn't do it on his own and similar questions might include.

Is Kraft the greatest owner/administrator of all time?
Is BB the best coach of all time.?

On and off the field they are considered the benchmark for excellence and, although it helps, it doesn't guarantee SB wins.

In Brady's time we've won 3 and lost 2 SB's. When you look at the scores in those games we are currently only +2 in points after 20 quarters of football.

These things are hard to win. We could easily be 5-0 or any combination of w/l through to 0-5.

All we know is this. He's what we have and he's just about as good as we can hope for. He's a cog, A BIG COG, but a cog and he has helped give us a better than average chance to get to the SB.

Snake Eyes

Teams win games, not QBs.

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