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Re: Pats' clinching/elimination options for a first round bye
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Originally Posted by blackglass3
Yes. Everyone asking to/thinking we will rest our starters next week are insane. We can still get #1 or #2 seed, why settle for a #3?
Settle for 3? Some of these guys would rather have 4
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Re: Pats' clinching/elimination options for a first round bye
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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson
How is being the #2 seed better than being the #1 because the #1 might lose?
The entire point of being 1 instead of 2 is to be at home in a 1/2 matchup.
I just like the matchups better that way - Cincinatti (#6) over Houston (#3) and then going up to Denver (#1), and the patriots (#2) playing indy (#5) in the divisional round. I don't like NE v. Cincinatti and Denver v. Indy as much. While I think the pats can handle cincy, I think Denver is the hot team right now in the AFC and would rather see them lose to another hot team.
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Re: Pats' clinching/elimination options for a first round bye
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Originally Posted by blackglass3
They can't move up in the seeding but they might be able to move down with a loss. Houston has never won in Indy and it will be Chuck Pagano's return game...would Indy want to throw Chuck Pagano's return game? That seems wrong to me, I don't know.
Depending on the Ravens Bengals games you are correct. I think the Colts would rather play the Ravens than play @ NE in the first week. So there is incentive to win along with Pagano's return.
Our best shot for a bye is certainly the Colts beating the Texans. If the Chiefs had a QB they could beat Denver, but......................
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Re: Pats' clinching/elimination options for a first round bye
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Depending on the Ravens Bengals games you are correct. I think the Colts would rather play the Ravens than play @ NE in the first week. So there is incentive to win along with Pagano's return.
Our best shot for a bye is certainly the Colts beating the Texans. If the Chiefs had a QB they could beat Denver, but......................
Denver getting a bye is a given at this point considering who their opponent is next week. we just have to hope for indy to show up BIG against houston. i think we have a really good shot at a bye.
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Re: Pats' clinching/elimination options for a first round bye
If this season ends short of a SB appearance, I will always look at the 49ers game as where it fell apart.
Had we completed the comeback against the 49ers, Brady would be the the MVP (as that would be his signature historic moment) and the Patriots would be the #1 seed right now. I'd be VERY confident in winning 2 home games and returning right back to the SB.
Instead, Brady is basically out of the MVP discussion, the #1 seed is unrealistic and the #2 seed comes down to a Colts team that has clinched and the Chiefs. We are most likely going to have to face the daunting task of defeating the Broncos (with a week rest) in Denver....
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Re: Pats' clinching/elimination options for a first round bye
If an Indy loss would knock them down to 6th seed, playing New England, vs. 5th seed playing Ravens/Bengals, that would give them something to play for. But if they have the 5th seed locked up, then a win merely gives them:
A boost in Pagano's return.
Worse draft position.
A reordering of their projected 2nd & 3rd playoff game matchups from Houston and (Denver or NE) to Denver and (NE or Houston).
The Pagano-return boost is their only positive incentive in that. Fortunately, that's enough reason for them to be up for the game ...
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Re: Pats' clinching/elimination options for a first round bye
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Originally Posted by TommyBrady12
Denver getting a bye is a given at this point considering who their opponent is next week. we just have to hope for indy to show up BIG against houston. i think we have a really good shot at a bye.
I don't know if I'd describe it as a really good shot, but I believe it is a legit shot. And at this point, that's about the best you can ask for.
So heading into week 17, we are behind both the Broncos and Texans by a game but hold the tie breakers against both. So as you probably all know, basically to get a bye we will need one of those two to lose, or to get the first seed both will need both to lose.
This seems unlikely already and we appear to be looking at the third seed and a tough wildcard game at home against the Bengals. The Broncos play against the Chiefs and the Texans square off against the Colts next week.
I can see the Chiefs playing the Broncos tough since it is there last game, but I don't see the Colts making any effort against the Texans, and they will probably rest their players. What do you guys think about our chances at getting at the top seeds? Is there any hope? Or do you think a tough matchup against the Bengals is all but inevitable?