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AzPatsFan · 12-10-2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by goheels22002

Wasn't it Josh's idea to draft Tebow in Denver? Maybe he could become the HC of the NYJ. They certainly don't list "good talent evaluation skillls" under the desired characteristics of that job. Josh was way over his head in Denver and there was no sign that John Elway would give a decent recommendation.

John Fox took roughly the same team to the playoffs last year, and did a very professional job with the transition from Tebow to Manning. Josh has none of those skills at the head coach level.

If BB were to hang them up, I think Bill O'Brien would be at the top of Bob or Jonathan Kraft's list. He knows the Patriots organization and did an admirable job under the worst of circumstances with Penn State.

The other guy is Nick Saban, of course. He knows how to win, has worked in a pro coaching environment and won't have much left to prove at the BCS level by the time Belichick calls it a day

If I have learned anything as a long time Pats fan, it takes more than HC prowess. The truly successful ones like Belichick, Landry, Shula and Brown, are those who can be the total football executive. He cooordinates and delegates not only the Coaching, carefully choosing compatible assistants; but the administrative aspects of the game, together with the scouting aspects both college and pro scouting to make sure that All portions of the entire operation are competently manned, and are working in harmony with his vision of a successful organization.

Nick Saban remains my choice, if necessary.

***Deus Irae*** · 12-10-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by goheels22002

Wasn't it Josh's idea to draft Tebow in Denver? Maybe he could become the HC of the NYJ. They certainly don't list "good talent evaluation skillls" under the desired characteristics of that job. Josh was way over his head in Denver and there was no sign that John Elway would give a decent recommendation.

John Fox took roughly the same team to the playoffs last year, and did a very professional job with the transition from Tebow to Manning. Josh has none of those skills at the head coach level.

If BB were to hang them up, I think Bill O'Brien would be at the top of Bob or Jonathan Kraft's list. He knows the Patriots organization and did an admirable job under the worst of circumstances with Penn State.

The other guy is Nick Saban, of course. He knows how to win, has worked in a pro coaching environment and won't have much left to prove at the BCS level by the time Belichick calls it a day

1.) McDaniels didn't even get 2 full years to learn the job

2.) McDaniels second draft was actually an excellent draft

3.) The Tebow stuff has gotten beyond ridiculous. The guy went 7-4 and took a terrible team to the second round of the playoffs in his first season as a starter, and that wasn't even a team that was built around his strengths and weaknesses. He might never be able to duplicate that but, as Griffin is showing in D.C. and Wilson is showing in Seattle, good things can happen in the NFL when you tailor your offenses to your QBs.

DefenseRules · 12-10-2012, 12:31 PM

Why don't these bums go sniff around the Giants' coaching staff? It would be nice if the pats could keep their coaching staff together for a little while. None of these bums even called McDaniels after the Broncos fired him.

***MoLewisrocks*** · 12-10-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AzPatsFan

If I have learned anything as a long time Pats fan, it takes more than HC prowess. The truly successful ones like Belichick, Landry, Shula and Brown, are those who can be the total football executive. He cooordinates and delegates not only the Coaching, carefully choosing compatible assistants; but the administrative aspects of the game, together with the scouting aspects both college and pro scouting to make sure that All portions of the entire operation are competently manned, and are working in harmony with his vision of a successful organization.

Nick Saban remains my choice, if necessary.

An impatient, egotistical, abarasive guy who points fingers at his own and bails at the first sign of failure...yeah, that's gonna be Kraft's choice...not.

grux · 12-10-2012, 05:02 PM

Very good coordinator but I wouldn't want him coaching my team. Like a previous poster noted, he is going to have a tough time with the veterans because of his age. I am also not convinced he should be BB successor.