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Old 12-10-2012, 11:12 AM   #31
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Or if you prefer a different perspective, our MB fans came up with the term "turtle mode" to describe our offense when playing with a lead in the second half.
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:16 AM   #32
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Forget the stats.

Some of the turnovers ya' got were just silly bad plays by the opponents.

Point taken, but not all turnovers are buttfumbles.


But THAT one is STILL hilarious.




I WILL give the Texans credit for keeping Brandon Moore's ass in check when they played the Rats, most teams know you can't stop Brandon Moore's ass, you only hope to contain it.
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Old 12-10-2012, 11:23 AM   #33
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EDIT: Want to mention the computer got smart and started corner blitzing out of their Nickel with Routt. I had no answer for that in this scheme - Vereen can't pass protect well in Madden, but putting Woodhead to block would mean you have to run Vereen through the tackles, one of his weakness. It forced me to run more than I wanted, as Brady was getting clobbered.
I don't play video games, but wouldn't that right there be a problem with Madden???

The Madden programmed data on Routt would be solely about him in the Oakland Raiders D system (a system he knew like the back of his hand as he was there 7 seasons). Madden 2012 was programmed before the start of the season - - so even the KC Chiefs data is not in it (correct me if I'm wrong and if Madden updates during the season).

Anyways, CB blitzes are about timing and knowing where all you teammates are on the field. This is Routt's first game in 5 weeks - - and first game in the Texans' D system.

I'm not convinced that particular performance shown in the Madden game is likely to be replicable in real life tonight.
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This is what Wade Phillips does; and he had done it for years.

He choose to do it; he is not forced to do it.

Everything boils down to execution.
I'm a believer after seeing this: Teams coached by Phillips are 14-12 against teams coached by Belichick (cumulative no matter which coaching position they had).

Belichick vs. Phillips a longstanding battle

However, the only time a McDaniels Offense went against a Phillips Defense, McDaniels handed him a beat down.

Either way, it should be interesting.
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I don't see y'all doing it as effectively as y'all might think. I certainly don't think y'all will beat us with the running game and seriously doubt that McDaniels will stick to it, regardless.
When I read this I picture you as Andy Devine

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So, I don't know if anyone has ever asked here, but is there a difference between a Wax Frog and a Wax Toad?

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So, I don't know if anyone has ever asked here, but is there a difference between a Wax Frog and a Wax Toad?

I have no clue, but I'm betting the Chinese would get queasy either way
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I hope the Pat's do try to run the ball against the Texans. I don't see y'all doing it as effectively as y'all might think. I certainly don't think y'all will beat us with the running game and seriously doubt that McDaniels will stick to it, regardless. His ego is too big and he wants to win with the pass and big plays. The Texans D is stout, regardless of 3 poor showings this year.
What is this word "y'all"?

How does it translate into Chowd vernacular?
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I'm a believer after seeing this: Teams coached by Phillips are 14-12 against teams coached by Belichick (cumulative no matter which coaching position they had).

Belichick vs. Phillips a longstanding battle

However, the only time a McDaniels Offense went against a Phillips Defense, McDaniels handed him a beat down.

Either way, it should be interesting.
If you subtract games where both functioned in a defensive capacity (they were not playing chess against each other), by my count, Wade has a 2-1 advantage.

On the other side of the coin, Gary Kubiak also owns a 2-1 advantage against BB's defense.

But erase all of that, this should be a chess match for the age (I hope).

The Texans also have the advantage of 2-head is better than one.
The Pats will be playing at home in cold weather.

I can't ask anything more from this matchup.
I hope it turns out to be a hell of a game for all of the fans.

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Sorry to say, but sometimes the Pats look like a college team running up the score.
With their defense, do you blame them?

No lead is safe.
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