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He shouldn't qualify. He sat on the bench for like 10 seasons so no rookie struggles and played with new school rules. Nevermind taking over for the 13-3 team that was a Favreception away from the SB.
You know what they say...
"It is, what it is."
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"Stats are for losers"
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Qb rating is only useful in the context of a season. If you expand it beyond that, you can really only utilize it to compare quarterbacks who have played in the same era. The best way to employ it, is by passer rating+, which adjusts the rating the QB had to the average rating in the period he played. Brady's 97.0 rating, for example, is 20% better than the league average in the period he played in, but Joe Montana's 92.3 is 22% better than the medium rating his peers had on those seasons.
While I believe it has it's flaws so does looking at % over average in this case. You have to consider the fact Brady has also competed and overlapped with another GOAT candidate throughout his entire career....Peyton Manning. As well as the number of other elite QB's: Brees, Rodgers, Farve, etc. So having this type of competition in the NFL is going to lower his % over league average.
just doing my part in the fight against blind homerism
OK, so its blind homerism to look at carrer stats of a guy closer to the end than the beginning and not think 5 years isn't enough to be in the discussion? OK
OK, so its blind homerism to look at carrer stats of a guy closer to the end than the beginning and not think 5 years isn't enough to be in the discussion? OK
The passer rating thing is a joke though. The league has gone pass happy over the last 6 seasons or so and as a result the QB ratings have jumped for everybody.
If you start to use passer rating as a reason to make somebody the GOAT then you are going to see it change many times over the next twenty years. Rodgers is so far ahead to this point in his career that he is likely to be the all time leader when his career ends but he only came into the league when it went pass happy.
Brady's QB rating in his last six seasons is like 107 or very close to it. Brady is clearly one of the greatest and quite possibly no.1 all time, for me only Montana is up there with him at this point, but lets not use QB rating as its just makes a mockery of the whole argument when the likes of Rivers, Romo and Schaub are top ten or close to it.
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QB rating in and of itself doesn't mean a whole lot, but it is another bullet in the G.O.A.T. gun.
QB rating
career touchdowns
career passing yards
TD/int ratio
wins
winning %
playoff winning %
championships
Most other great QB's show up on some of these lists, and not others. Brady's the only guy who, when all is said and done, will probably be at or near the top in all of them.
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QB rating in and of itself doesn't mean a whole lot, but it is another bullet in the G.O.A.T. gun.
QB rating
career touchdowns
career passing yards
TD/int ratio
wins
winning %
playoff winning %
championships
Most other great QB's show up on some of these lists, and not others. Brady's the only guy who, when all is said and done, will probably be at or near the top in all of them.
This post sums it up.
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OK, so its blind homerism to look at carrer stats of a guy closer to the end than the beginning and not think 5 years isn't enough to be in the discussion? OK
You're acting as though 5 years, and 2500 attempts is some small sample.
Rodgers is at 104.4 to Brady's 97.
Do you expect Rodgers to drop significantly over the rest of his career while Brady and Manning have seen theirs rise over the last few years?
You're acting as though 5 years, and 2500 attempts is some small sample.
Rodgers is at 104.4 to Brady's 97.
Do you expect Rodgers to drop significantly over the rest of his career while Brady and Manning have seen theirs rise over the last few years?
I don't expect him to get close to Brady in winning % for either reg season or playoffs and not close to Brady in terms of playoff wins.
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