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Shed83 · 11-21-2012, 02:31 AM

Andy why do you get so upset when people speculate - i dont get it?

This is a fan messageboard - thats what happens on messageboards.

I dont see you ripping Mike Reiss for going along with the speculating.

***ALP*** · 11-21-2012, 04:22 AM

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Big $$$ extension for Chung isn't happening regardless of the tweet.

We need to make sure we get Vollmer done and also Donald Thomas who is a FA after this year.

Thankfully the TE are and Mayo are done but we also need to be thinking about Solder, Spikes and McCourty in the not too distant future. Spikes only has one more year, Solder and McCourty have two.

you mentioned all these ppl....what about welker?

smg93 · 11-21-2012, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Shed83

Andy why do you get so upset when people speculate - i dont get it?

This is a fan messageboard - thats what happens on messageboards.

I dont see you ripping Mike Reiss for going along with the speculating.

But that's just the point - he is speculating as well when he takes the position that maybe the tweet and its subsequent deletion mean nothing which is why I, like you don't understand the necessity to berate other people for something that he's doing as well.

Mack Herron · 11-21-2012, 05:45 AM

Chung was playing poorly before he got hurt. So was everyone else in the secondary. But, like McCourty, he has played effectively in the past. When he is playing well, he brings value especially against the run which, by the way, is something the team has been struggling with a bit while Chung has been out. BB has not given up on him or he would not be on the roster. So I am still holding out hope for his return to see what he can add to a more effective secondary than the one he left.

Luxusdk · 11-21-2012, 06:14 AM

As Tedy Bruschi pointed out on the latest podcast, durability is the most importent skill. By that scale Chung dump hardly and would be pointless to cast $ after a player, who might if lucky, be ready 8/16 games a year.
Then you can talk about the secondary, the biggest issue Patriots had for years.. Mayby if a group of ppl have the opportunity to play together as a unit, impovements might follow aswell. Consisdensy might be the thing we missing mostly right now! Not only are they a young but talented group, but they also getting new players each week.

***Horace's Ivories*** · 11-21-2012, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Luxusdk

As Tedy Bruschi pointed out on the latest podcast, durability is the most importent skill. By that scale Chung dump hardly and would be pointless to cast $ after a player, who might if lucky, be ready 8/16 games a year.
Then you can talk about the secondary, the biggest issue Patriots had for years.. Mayby if a group of ppl have the opportunity to play together as a unit, impovements might follow aswell. Consisdensy might be the thing we missing mostly right now! Not only are they a young but talented group, but they also getting new players each week.

I think "Chung Dump" is the operative name..

***AndyJohnson*** · 11-21-2012, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Shed83

Andy why do you get so upset when people speculate - i dont get it?

This is a fan messageboard - thats what happens on messageboards.

I dont see you ripping Mike Reiss for going along with the speculating.

I'm not upset. I'm just pointing out that I find it silly that people jump to conclusions without any basis of facts. It happens all the time around here, and you would think people would learn.
I would criticize Reiss for speculating without facts (in fact I'm sure I have) if you put him doing that in front of me.

***AndyJohnson*** · 11-21-2012, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by smg93

Andy, the problem is you asked why anyone should assume there's a problem with Chung because of a tweet which he subsequently deleted.

On the other side of that equation is why you assume that things are just fine with Chung and that a tweet like that should be dismissed.

Because nothing has changed since he was starting and got injured.

RodThePat · 11-21-2012, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson

I'm not upset. I'm just pointing out that I find it silly that people jump to conclusions without any basis of facts. It happens all the time around here, and you would think people would learn.
I would criticize Reiss for speculating without facts (in fact I'm sure I have) if you put him doing that in front of me.

If people could only talk about what is factually proven, this message board wouldn't exist, and neither would sports talk radio, or even ESPN. What is the matter about discussing conjecture? Chung tweeted something that raised some eyebrows and then deleted it right away. Do we know for sure what he was trying to say? No. Should that fact alone discourage any type of speculation around the topic? Obviously not. This is pretty much why places like PatsFans exist.

***goheels22002*** · 11-21-2012, 09:06 AM

Patrick Chung: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF5qh6yGvZM

He was not a "healthy scratch" the past four weeks. Players and training staffs are often at odds over whether a guy should play. Let the medical people do their thing and this will be fine. I like that he's sounding frustrated. It means he wants to play and is building up some determination to play well.

Chung at 100% is a good player, closes very well and is a heavy hitter. If he cannot run or doesn't have the burst needed due to a bad hamstring (which take a long time to heal), he's a liability.

If he gets all the way back for the Texans game, that is the one that counts most in the seeding. A foursome of McCourtney, Talib, Chung and Gregory is what we need to see the Patriots have available for the playoffs.