Armchair Quarterback

Sorry, I'm not going to boo the guy who made that kick in the snow against Oakland and the 48 yarder for the SB win.

He left seven years ago, get over it. Red Sox fan mentality.

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Steve:Section 102

Indeed. People drew comparison to Johnny Damon signing with the Yankees when AV left. Leaving for a decent payday, extending your career in the process, and possibly making it to the HOF in no way compares to a reasonably decent outfielder going to the Red Sox' mortal enemy. IF Adam were to make it into the HOF, the residual $$ would be much larger than if he were "Adam Vinatieri, 3 time SB champion". It was a no-brainer. I'll never boo the guy. He did what he had to do, as did the franchise. I would say it's worked for both parties.

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Tunescribe

Interesting factoid re., Adam: He no longer kicks off, yet they had him try a near-60-yarder at the end of the half Sunday. I don't know how long he's been on FG/PAT duty exclusively, but it's a pretty sure bet the Patriots wouldn't keep a kicker like that.

If I recall correctly, didn't New England make him a reasonable offer to stay, only to be outbid by Indy? Seems to me that Polian inflated his worth to tweak the Pats.

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KontradictioN

I can't recall an exact number of years, but Vinatieri has been doing that for a while now.

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Raymond

Pay no attention to the senile man ( Ryan) behind the curtain.

Did he not recently complain about the NFL scheduling conspiracy with the Pats/ Colts without even knowing scheduling is done years in advance.

PatsDeb

I believe that they made him a reasonable offer to stay, and even wanted to try to match any offer he got, and he didn't give them a chance and jumped ship. That's fine, his prerogative, and people have laid out the reasons here why he made the right move. I'm pretty sure it was a tweak at the Pats and Indy got the added bonus of replacing their "liquored up" kicker with one who didn't choke and shank it in crunch time. Remember, AV has one more SB ring than TB.

I don't hate AV. I appreciate what he did here, and if I ran into him in the street I would shake his hand and thank him for what he did here. But when he lined up to kick that long FG on Sunday, towards the EZ where I was sitting for this game, did I boo lustily and long? Hell, yes! It's called situational football, folks. Remember our friend Bill plays it all the time? I am a Pats homer. I am not a knuckledragger or a Red Sox whiner, thank you very much.

MoLewisrocks

Better remains to be seen (beyond the kickoffs which have been mitigated somewhat by the rules change) and he's costing us top dollar, $3M+, and has been since 2010. The Colts use their punter on kickoffs but it's a wash as he earns about what Zoltan does and he's pretty darned good as a multitasker.

Gostkowski was inexpensive as a 4th round draft pick out of the gate, although Adam as an UDFA was even moreso early in his career. The extension Gostkowski signed thereafter was for 5 years and $15.79m with $5M guaranteed. The deal Adam signed in 2006 was for 5 years and $12M with $3.5M guaranteed. He was extended in 2011 on a 3 year $10M deal with $3.5M guaranteed although he's all salary from here on out and took a $500K pay cut this season as a 40 year old kicker on a rebuilding team. They both missed half a season due to injury after signing their big long term deals.

Some trust issues seem to poke their head out from time to time to date, hopefully those will never truly bite us in the ass. Never did with Adam on Belichick's watch. I fault neither the player nor the team for what transpired. Each did what they believed was in their best interest and seemed to have trived in the aftermath. I do believe this is one of those times however when they regretted what transpired albeit too late to do anything about it beyond move on.

When Gostowski is a UFA again in 2015 at age 32 we shall see how his career plays out and whether he decides to be just another traitor. If so it'd be nice if he leaves us with a legacy of vaulting us into a superbowl contention and 3 rings let alone all won by the margin of a FG and two in the closing seconds.

Whereas a healthy smattering of boos whenever Samuel takes the field would not seem out of line to me. I know he tortured Peyton a time or two, but at one time just being in this area code did. Another Manning, not so much... Asante was more the player along for the ride who wanted a lot more than he was worth. Which is why they never lamented not even trying to extend him past his franchise season, which in itself was a mistake since they'd have far been better off in the long and short haul flipping him.

FirstAndGoal

For me, it has nothing to do with money. Here's what I remember.


When Adam came back the first time, he was booed on his first kick and he missed it. Whether it's true that it got to him or not, I've been booing away since then, not because I hate him. I'm booing because it might bother him and he might miss.... kind of a superstition at this point.

If he moves to the Browns, I'll boo him...why?, because he might miss again.


Now, Adam will be in at least the Pats HOF someday and I'll vote for him. That doesn't mean I want to play nice and encourage him to make a field goal against the Pats.


P.S. Adam gets booed like he does because it's that one play where it's success or failure. Positional players make and miss plays all game long. For Adam, it's a point of focus and opportunity to fvck with his head.

Nunchucks

I love Adam, but come on guys. I totally would boo the crap out of him during a game. Seriously, he is putting points on the board for the other team, of course you can boo him.

dales804

I booed him on Sunday and I have all the respect in the world for what he accomplished here. It's simply that he's on the other team now trying to put points on the board. Would any other opposing kicker get booed like that? No, but when a player leaves and goes to your main rival at the time, it will promote the boos.

Again, as long as Adam is playing against the Pats he will probably get booed. When he hangs them up and returns, I think he will get a standing O. And he seems to know it.