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Old 11-19-2012, 10:25 AM   #1
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After yesterday's game, the Patriots are now +20 in turnover differential, with the next highest being Chicago at +14 and Baltimore at +12. Obviously we know that Brady is great at avoiding turnovers himself, but credit needs to be given to the defense for upping the forced fumbles this year, and to the RB's for taking care of the rock. Especially Ridley, who seems to have answered the questions on his ball security so far this season.

No point, just staggering numbers to me.
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Not bad for a crappy defense... this stuff gets contagious.
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After yesterday's game, the Patriots are now +20 in turnover differential, with the next highest being Chicago at +14 and Baltimore at +12. Obviously we know that Brady is great at avoiding turnovers himself, but credit needs to be given to the defense for upping the forced fumbles this year, and to the RB's for taking care of the rock. Especially Ridley, who seems to have answered the questions on his ball security so far this season.

No point, just staggering numbers to me.
Two fun facts: (1) +20 is the sixth best margin through 10 games in the post-merger era. (2) The Patriots' total of 27 turnovers isn't even in the top 100 in that same time span.
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their D is horrible..but they sure know how to get turnovers
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Two fun facts: (1) +20 is the sixth best margin through 10 games in the post-merger era. (2) The Patriots' total of 27 turnovers isn't even in the top 100 in that same time span.
With all of the types of hard hits that typically cause fumbles now being outlawed, with essentially all contact with receivers being forbidden, and with the relatively high-risk kickoff return being legislated out of the game,

it is difficult to expect turnover rates to ever approach what was once possible.

But forcing turnovers still wins games.
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Two fun facts: (1) +20 is the sixth best margin through 10 games in the post-merger era. (2) The Patriots' total of 27 turnovers isn't even in the top 100 in that same time span.
So reading between the lines, it really represents an insane lack of turnovers by the offense.
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So reading between the lines, it really represents an insane lack of turnovers by the offense.
Yes, I'd also go further and say that an offense that scores a lot will limit the opportunities for the defense to be on the field thereby lowering the number of chances for turnovers to be created.
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They showed a stat yesterday that blew my mind. In the second 8 games of the 2010 and 2011 seasons, plus games 9-10 this year, the Pats have 50 takeaways and only 4 giveaways.
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Yes, I'd also go further and say that an offense that scores a lot will limit the opportunities for the defense to be on the field thereby lowering the number of chances for turnovers to be created.
I haven't found a good site for time of possession stats, but just from observation I don't think the Pats typically dominate the ToP stats. The hurry plus their efficiency actually balances out those numbers I think.
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So reading between the lines, it really represents an insane lack of turnovers by the offense.
Sure, but not JUST that. The Patriots do lead the AFC in takeaways by a large margin, and they did last year too, so it's no fluke.

(Along those lines, a new milestone in Rob Ninkovich's ongoing imitation of Mike Vrabel's career stats: Nink just tied Vrabel for the franchise record for most forced fumbles in a season.)
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