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xlcjw72 · 11-13-2012, 12:58 PM

Anybody who doesn't say wilfork is crazy. People talk about him not being as good as Sapp well maybe but Sapp had a better defensive hands down.

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randomk1 · 11-13-2012, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by xlcjw72

Anybody who doesn't say wilfork is crazy. People talk about him not being as good as Sapp well maybe but Sapp had a better defensive hands down.

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They are completely different players so i don't really see a point in comparing those two.

Sapp was a beast. It's amazing how well he moved for his size.

Avenger · 11-13-2012, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gostkowski for 3

Wilfork gets tired quickly and becomes ineffective, but Mayo is having a solid season for sure.

Wilfork is double teamed on more than 75% of all plays

everlong · 11-13-2012, 01:32 PM

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If only Spikes had Mayo's speed. Would be one of the greats. But, I think Wilfork is the best player on d. Takes up a lot of blockers.

He also would have been draft ahead of McClain by another team.

Danger Zone · 11-13-2012, 01:41 PM

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That said, here is a must-read article about Wilfork. Bill Belichick, Vince Wilfork, and the New England Patriots defense - Grantland

Salva135 · 11-13-2012, 01:57 PM

Big Vince is by far the best defensive player, but Spikes brings an intensity that is much needed on this squad. And if you follow his Twitter, he's bat-***** insane, which is I think is a good thing. We have enough model citizens who speak well for the franchise, I don't mind a defense full of crazy mofos. I'd take Cromartie in an instant.

***BradyFTW!*** · 11-13-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gostkowski for 3

Does anyone else think he's the best player on our defense (and by far?). I love the way he plays and for a while he's been the only player that I can appreciate on D.

Wilfork, Mayo, Jones. Spikes is almost on their level, but his lack of speed means that you have to gameplan around his weaknesses in coverage, which is a significant part of why the Pats' pass defense is so vulnerable over the middle (the other reason being that our safeties don't have much range, with the exception of Wilson and McCourty if he stays there).

***BradyFTW!*** · 11-13-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by randomk1

Can somebody explain to me why is Mayo our best player exactly? Tell me one thing he is spectacular at? He is a step behind in pass coverage like everybody else, he isn't some monster that you can't run at. At least Spikes brings that nastiness to compensate for whatever faults he has.

Mayo is more of a janitor. He cleans up negative plays and racks up the tackles.

He is not a potential blue chip player like a Wilfork or Chandler and no OC will look at the game tape and say - this guy is going to be a problem

Not hating on Mayo i think he is a starter on every team outside of SF i just don't think he is all that special.

He covers well for a linebacker, he doesn't miss tackles, he's always where he's supposed to be, and he has range. He doesn't produce highlight-reel, game-changing plays like Spikes does, but that doesn't mean that his value should be understated under any circumstances. He's an elite linebacker.

manxman2601 · 11-13-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gostkowski for 3

Does anyone else think he's the best player on our defense (and by far?). I love the way he plays and for a while he's been the only player that I can appreciate on D.

I'm going to predict that McCourty, should he stay full time at safety, will be in the running for best defensive player in a couple of years.

***Bobs My Uncle*** · 11-13-2012, 02:12 PM

Wilfork by a long shot. Then lump Mayo, Spikes and Jones together for next best.