SVN

reflexblue

So nothing has changed in the last three or four years, and unless it does theres a standard blue print to stop the pats.

__________________
S.H.E.S.
I Likes Spikes.

Deus Irae

That's why some of us had been calling for a WR3 since 2009, and a middle-deep guy since 2010.

__________________
"The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."
- Marcus Aurelius

Mack Herron

And this year at least it would seem to fall heavily on Josh, no? People keep saying that Lloyd is better than last year's Branch, but after Sunday I'm not so sure. Neither appears to be the solution.

Bobs My Uncle

This has been the MO on how to stop the current version of the Pats passing attack for a few years now. Lloyd was added to curtail this style of defense and, yesterday, he failed miserably in his role.

Deus Irae

Well, it's early enough into an already injury-riddled season that I think pointing fingers in this area is premature.

Is Edelman the answer at WR3? We don't know.
Is this the best Lllllllloyd's going to be? If so, a lot of us were wrong.
Is the Welker avoidance stuff on McDaniels/BB or players/opponents?
Can this team integrate all the parts more smoothly?
Will this team stop forcing the ball to Llllllllllllllloyd as if he's a legit WR1 when he needs to be this group's WR2?

We need the answer to the above before we know whether or not the problem's solved, or whether the problem is player/coach/both, IMO. They still need to find the Mike Wallace/Randy Moss player for the offense moving forward, though, because Welker is seemingly going to be moving on and the team will be without a WR1.

__________________
"The object in life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."
- Marcus Aurelius

KontradictioN

I'm interested to see the Wednesday responses from those that have All-22 access. I don't think the Jets really gave a damn about him threatening over the top. The safeties seemed to be focues on Welker and Gronk... and they got away with it.

__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


CREDIT - Sicilian

MoLewisrocks

And for a time it appeared heading into camp they had some depth and options until they decided they didn't need any as they were just going to force the issue with Lloyd. Didn't even have a fall back until they reeled Branch back in. Apparently because they assumed Edelman lurking in the weeds can replace most any position... And they seriously discounted the value of Welker's uncanny ability to rise above seeming challenges even when bracketed. With the TE's struggling with health issues and facing the usual adjustment period to DC's adjusting to their breakout prior season performances, they need a weapon on the field who at least consistently commands double or coverage focus. Then you have to have weapons who can consistently beat single coverage. Having decoys won't cut it. Unless you can make them pay teams will continue to persue an approach that is paying dividends. The pats struggle settling on an option that makes teams pay and they seem oddly committed to not sticking with it even while it is. That's the overthinking. Add in their exacerbated OL woes that continue to limit options because of their own struggles to operate efficiently let alone multi dimentionally and TE injury and you have an offense that has taken a step back in it's presuit of a step forward in an effort to reinvent the wheel in an off season.

SVN

Without welker this offense is screwed. LLoyd is not the answer for the deep threat , maybe make him run more routes intermediate but he cant seem to create seperate AND catch the ball and run at the same time. Maybe JMcD is assuming what he did with moss here he can do with lloyd thats why he is being force fed so much.

borg

Don't tell Andy Johnson this....he insists Lloyd has expanded the field.

__________________
"In the end, Belichick juiced Moss like an orange, and once all the good pulp was squeezed, he tossed Moss aside. "


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.