KontradictioN

Did the Jets safeties respect Lloyd's ability to get deep at all today? Looked mostly like he was in single coverage on TV.

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Sciz

Remind me on Wednesday and I'll watch for it.

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Juddy

I'll be checking this on wednesday but my gut instinct is that it wasn't overly respected.

KontradictioN

I feel the same way. From the TV view, which admittedly doesn't give you much, it looked like the Jets were more concerned with flooding the middle than they were about any other part of the field. What's more concerning is that the Patriots couldn't make them pay for it.

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Dragda

I set myself a reminder to look at this when the make the coaches film available.

Nikolai

I was at the game and it looked like mostly single coverage. They were definitely more concerned with Welker, Gronk, and AHern, though Gronk and AHern had their share of mismatches.

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Rob0729

Considering they are a team that can afford to put Cromartie on Lloyd one on one while they don't really have anyone who can cover Welker one on one, you would expect they would leave Cromartie on an island with Lloyd.

If the point of the original poster is that teams don't respect Lloyd enough to keep a safety deep, this wasn't the game to prove it. Against both Houston and Indy, the Jets did leave Cromartie one-on-one with Andre Johnson and Reggie Wayne quite a bit. That is how the Jets play.

KontradictioN

We must have been watching two different games then because whenever Johnson threatened over the top, the Jets gave Cromartie safety help. I didn't see too much of Jets-Colts, but I'll take your word for it on Wayne. Wayne had 5 rec for 87 yards. Lloyd, accoridng to many people here, was good enough to offset the release of Gaffney because, after all, the 2011 team didn't have them. So, if what you're telling me about Wayne is true, I would expect Lloyd to have had a similar stat line. It's going to be interesting when the people who can view the All-22 come back with their answer because, based upon what I saw Sunday and on the Rewind last night, the Jets shadowed not only Cromartie alone on him, but also other corners as well. For example, there was a period when Cromartie was covering both Hernandez and Gronk. That was the purpose of the question. How much safety attention did Lloyd actually demand?

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Rob0729

The thing is they probably should have given over the top help on Lloyd. Lloyd beat his guy several times with the ball right in his hands. He just didn't hold onto the ball. If Lloyd didn't have the case of the dropsies against the Jets, he would have had a monster game. There was one sure long TD and another 30 yarder that he dropped which was right in his hand.

Again though, one game doesn't constitute evidence of anything. The Jets had no one to cover Welker and I mean no one (at least some teams have a CB who can at least give him some coverage). They needed to double and triple team him because Wilson historically gets spanked by him and usually Revis matches up on Welker because of this.

Gaffney is a non-issue here though. He is irrelevant to the conversation. By many accounts, he struggled with the offense this summer before he was injured and may have had an attitude issue (seemed too entitled) according to many accounts. He hasn't been able to be activated on game day by the Dolphins and they are in need of WR help. He is also no help as a deep threat (which people who criticize Lloyd say is what the Pats need instead of him) and is another possession WR. If the Pats wanted Gaffney, he would be here instead of Branch. If Lloyd isn't demanding over the top safety help, neither would Gaffney.

As for Cromartie, I saw him matched up one on one with Johnson a lot, but there may have been times he got over the top help. The Texans are a heavy play action team so I seriously doubt the Jets had a lot of formations where they had two safeties (or even one) deep because you never know when they are going to run or pass with Foster and Tate being huge run threats. So I don't think they had nearly as much over the top help as you suggest.