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Old 10-09-2012, 02:24 PM   #21
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You can't judge the trade based on the stupid contract they gave him way after the trade.
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The real problem with that trade was that Oakland didn't suck as badly as they should have. Solder was a nice pick up but if you look at some of the defensive talent that went at the top of that round, getting one of those guys might have made this a slam dunk success. How good would the defense be with one of these guys:

#2 Von Miller
#3 Darnell Dareus
#5 Patrick Peterson
#7 Aldon Smith
#11 JJ Watt

Stupid Raiders. They can't even lose correctly.
Not having Solder now would be worse than what we would have gained from any of those players.
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But have we won any SB's since Big-Sey left? Like BB said time and time again guys like Richard Seymour don't grow on trees. I still think we have won at least one of our last two SB's if we had him.
Well he was on the 2007 teams FYI
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Not having Solder now would be worse than what we would have gained from any of those players.

Laughable. JJ Watt and Von Miller might have helped us win it all last year. Matt Light gets more money thrown his way and returns. We could have gotten our T this spring.
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Laughable. JJ Watt and Von Miller might have helped us win it all last year. Matt Light gets more money thrown his way and returns. We could have gotten our T this spring.
Matt Light reveals decade-long battle with Crohn's - ESPN Boston I highly doubt they could've gotten Light to come back for reasonable money if at all.
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Not having Solder now would be worse than what we would have gained from any of those players.
Can't change history but JJ Watt is the best defensive end in football right now. I think he would have made a big impact on our defense and he could have possibly made an impact on us winning it all in 2011. I mean if Watt batts down a Manning pass or forces him to get rid of the ball a split second too early in that game could have easily spelled the difference in the match.

I don't regret ending up with Solder but I feel that Watt is far and away more of an impact playmaker if we are going to revise history.
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Seymour went to two pro-bowls and has been a steady locker room presence amidst the chaos his entire time in Oakland. Fans seem to forget how laughable that team was the several years leading up to when Seymour got there.
AGreed. From what I have seen of Oakland it's their atrocious offense that has been the problem, not Seymour or their defense.
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Not having Solder now would be worse than what we would have gained from any of those players.
With Scar doing his thing, I think we could have found a viable replacement if it meant picking up one of those guys. You can't coach the level of talent in those defensive players.
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Oakland Fans are NOT happy with the way things have played out. It appears they overpaid for a far past his prime former great who cannot get it done anymore

Richard Seymour


What do you guys think of the man we got in this trade, Nate Solder. Has he lived up to your expectations?
I hated the trade at the time, because I thought that, with Seymour, we could have won another title in '09 (and/or in '10 if we'd found a way to tag/keep Seymour). People seem to have already forgotten how good he was, but he was pretty much impossible to run on and also generated a credible pass rush at the same time. Once-in-a-generation type talent at his best, and he was still pretty close to his prime.

Over time, I've softened my stance. I still think that there's a >25% chance that this trade cost the Pats a fourth Lombardi, especially when the Ravens knocked us out at home in '09 by attacking where Seymour should have been (and remember, this was a year that a fairly unimposing Jets team went to the AFCCG). That said, if the economic reality was that it was literally impossible to keep both Seymour and Wilfork, then letting Seymour go was the right call. Wilfork's brought his game to a whole new level over the last couple of seasons, and Seymour isn't quite so valuable in the defense that the Pats run these days.

On the Oakland side, I don't see what they're complaining about. Seymour has been a leader and an impact player for them, and they would have whiffed on the pick anyway.
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Not having Solder now would be worse than what we would have gained from any of those players.
You'd rather have Solder than JJ Watt? Seriously?
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