Game Thoughts, Patriots loss at Baltimore - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

manxman2601 · 09-24-2012, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BradyManny

Agree. McCourty was great all night, and all anyone is going to focus on is the mistakes. It's a shame. But we saw last night he can cover deep down the sideline at a high level again. No doubt about it, his play was strong last night.

He was great apart from his mistakes is what you're saying. Does that mean the officiating crew were great too?

No doubt he did well on occasion, but he was burned a number of times in the final quarter, dropped a sitter of an INT and played pattercake with Pitta (?) on the TD - a really pathetic attempt at a tackle. For those reasons alone, I respectfully disagree that he played a "great" game. He also had a lot of safety help last night.

***reflexblue*** · 09-24-2012, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob0729

This one of the most ridiculously poor officiated games I have ever seen. Some of the things that have been said by people that I saw that was aggravating. First, the refs giving into Harbaugh to do a measurement on 4th and a very long one should never had happened. It gave Harbaugh time to review the replay without ticking seconds off the clock. It was pathetic. Also, something that seemed to go overlooked is whenever the Pats' ran the no huddle the refs were exceptionally slow to set the ball giving the Ravens times to do substitutions.
I thought Edelman had a good game. Maybe we are starting to see what McDaniels and Belichick see in him. Hopefully, his hand is ok.
I think Matt Patricia is getting off the hook for his game plan and lack of adjustments. He spoon fed the Ravens their gameplan. On the Ravens' side of the field, he kept two safeties deep allowing the Ravens to run Rice all over the defense. On the Pats' side of the field, he would go with an one safety deep set which allowed Flacco to pass deep with ease. The Ravens' first three TDs were scored by that same strategy and Patricia never adjusted.
Ninkovich had a really bad game. I think the Pats should consider bringing back Carter to line up opposite Jones.
I know I am in the minority, but overall I thought McCourty had a really good game with some bad plays. That first INT drop was a great play by him and just broken up by the receiver. Yet fans are killing him for it. I thought for the most part when he covered Smith he shut him out of the game. The Smith TD on him should have been offensive pass interference. He also got a phantom penalty on him too.
McDaniels showed that he can be too creative for his own good. Those reverses are good to take advantage of the aggressive Ravens' defense, but you gotta use them sparingly.
The o-line overall played pretty good last night. It wasn't until the Ravens started to send the house did the line show any significant breakdowns.

Ill co sign this. Worst offciated game in modern pats history, the ridiculous calls kept the defense on the field and they wore down, so many ludicrous calls
I thought mcourty played well also

The O-line played a lot better than last week

At times Micky D got to cute for his own good. Unless he was banged up why wasn't riddly out there more.

Ive seen Ninko struggle lately, it this continues maybe put cunningham in at his spot.

***Rob0729*** · 09-24-2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BradyManny

Agree. McCourty was great all night, and all anyone is going to focus on is the mistakes. It's a shame. But we saw last night he can cover deep down the sideline at a high level again. No doubt about it, his play was strong last night.

They showed plenty of times when he had outstanding coverage. They showed one route on Smith where he cut off the route and forced his route to be along the sidelines forcing Flacco to throw it into a too tight of a window.

aluminum seats · 09-24-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ForThoseAboutToRock

Going to post a few of my own here before reading the thread:

1 - NFL = no fun league. I disliked watching that product last night.

2 - The official's worst problem, it seems to me, was their inconsistency and lack of ability to set the officiating tone for the game.

4 - Devin McCourty... man - I dunno. I'm just going to gently step off his bandwagon and back away slowly.

8 - I hope Belichick isn't suspended for grabbing the ref. I suspect he will just be fined, but you never know if the MAN will use BB as an example to the other players and coaches to shut up about the refs. The league is experiencing a crap load of bad publicity over this rounding error in their budget, and I feel like Steve Young's statement about the owners not caring because their coffers are filling has some traction with the average fan. Point being, Goodell could come down very hard in order to smack everyone back into line like good little boys who do what Mr. G tells them to do.

9 - I really hope we're done seeing these 4th quarter leads disappear. They're a common theme among the last 3 losses, and they hurt my brain.

--Strongly agree on these points. THIS is the kind of officiated game that would turn me off to the league; not just that there were bad calls, but it was just an endless arbitrary stream of chaos. It began to feel meaningless what happened.

--Disappointed in McCourty. Hard to believe they keep voting him captain.

--Way too much made of Belichick touching the ref. It wasn't beligerent, and it wasn't during the game. It was, "hey Pal, you want to stop running away like a little girl and talk to me for a second?"

Walpole Pats Fan · 09-24-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by manxman2601

He was great apart from his mistakes is what you're saying. Does that mean the officiating crew were great too?

No doubt he did well on occasion, but he was burned a number of times in the final quarter, dropped a sitter of an INT and played pattercake with Pitta (?) on the TD - a really pathetic attempt at a tackle. For those reasons alone, I respectfully disagree that he played a "great" game. He also had a lot of safety help last night.

We can't be singling out McCourty. Note that I haven't gone through other threads, but Arrington got roasted a few times and Gregory wasn't exactly putting on a tackling clinic.

TommyBrady12 · 09-24-2012, 08:38 AM

if anyone thought that the refs were going to help us last night need a head check. there was no way the NFL/refs were going to let the pats win after what happened to torrey Smith. these types of hollywood endings aren't really magical - they happen that way for a reason. that coupled with the fact we were playing in baltimore, no way the pats were going to walk out of there with a W.

aluminum seats · 09-24-2012, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Walpole Pats Fan

We can't be singling out McCourty. Note that I haven't gone through other threads, but Arrington got roasted a few times and Gregory wasn't exactly putting on a tackling clinic.

I think it's a matter of expectations. As lousy as McCourty was last year, there was hope he would rebound this season. You're right that he was hardly alone in secondary suckiness. We should probably just accept what he is now and go from there.

***ForThoseAboutToRock*** · 09-24-2012, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TommyBrady12

if anyone thought that the refs were going to help us last night need a head check. there was no way the NFL/refs were going to let the pats win after what happened to torrey Smith. these types of hollywood endings aren't really magical - they happen that way for a reason. that coupled with the fact we were playing in baltimore, no way the pats were going to walk out of there with a W.

I had a similar thought. Smith could have pretty much done anything to get free for a catch and it wouldn't have been called.

Doesn't really mean that people thought the refs were there to "help" the pats last night though.

NinjaZX6R · 09-24-2012, 08:41 AM

What could happen is if they moved Ninko to 43 sam and either bring Carter back or move JC to LDE.

NinjaZX6R · 09-24-2012, 08:42 AM

Devin had a decent game till the 4th qtr.