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Old 09-20-2012, 11:34 AM   #1
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This guy deserves more credit than he's getting. I'm jumping on the bandwagon. It'll probably be lonely here, but screw it. Dude is a converted QB and has worked his way into the starting lineup of one of the best offenses ever to take an NFL field. I, for one, don't believe for a second that it's just to screw Welker (). He's out there because he won the job and I want to see what he can do with it. Yeah, it'll take some time, but give him a chance. He might actually turn out to be worthy.
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This guy deserves more credit than he's getting. I'm jumping on the bandwagon. It'll probably be lonely here, but screw it. Dude is a converted QB and has worked his way into the starting lineup of one of the best offenses ever to take an NFL field. I, for one, don't believe for a second that it's just to screw Welker (). He's out there because he won the job and I want to see what he can do with it. Yeah, it'll take some time, but give him a chance. He might actually turn out to be worthy.
Agreed he is not Wes seems to be the only complaint that people have. Sure we would like to see more production but give it time but also you might not get the same production from him that Wes gave. All that said he earned his spots and deserves his chances but he is not better than Wes and should not be getting more reps.
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This guy deserves more credit than he's getting. I'm jumping on the bandwagon. It'll probably be lonely here, but screw it. Dude is a converted QB and has worked his way into the starting lineup of one of the best offenses ever to take an NFL field. I, for one, don't believe for a second that it's just to screw Welker (). He's out there because he won the job and I want to see what he can do with it. Yeah, it'll take some time, but give him a chance. He might actually turn out to be worthy.
Yeah, he's awesome. Pretty much every interception or major screw-up on offense has been on a play where was the main target over the last two years. But hey, he's "worked his way into the starting lineup." Forget that it was Welker's hard work throughout his entire career as the reason why Julie was even given a chance in the NFL.

You will me see rolling my eyes from the rear view mirror of your bandwagon.
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Forget that it was Welker's hard work throughout his entire career as the reason why Julie was even given a chance in the NFL.
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Look, we all like the guy. He's a good STer, and a good slot guy. But people claiming more than that are projecting. He was, by every metric, one of the least productive wide receivers in the NFL in 2010 & 2011 given his playing time. I don't care how good his camp was, he needs to do it on the field, in a game.

And you aren't in the minority or going out on a limb by starting this bandwagon. A bulk of this board is infatuated with Julian Edelman and has been ready to jettison Welker for some time. Too bad they're both free agents at the end of the season, so there's no guarantees on either of them.
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Agreed he is not Wes seems to be the only complaint that people have. Sure we would like to see more production but give it time but also you might not get the same production from him that Wes gave. All that said he earned his spots and deserves his chances but he is not better than Wes and should not be getting more reps.

I'm not 100% sure Wes is better. That's the point of putting Edelman out there. We have to figure out what he is in real time. Wes is great and certainly has the production behind him to say he deserves to be out there. Now, I won't be surprised in the least if it turns out that Edelman can't live up to Wes, but I acknowledge there's a slim chance.

Correct we if I'm wrong, but Edelman isn't getting more reps than Wes, the whole hubbub is abotu the fact the Edelman is getting on the field at all, which is taking a few snaps away from Wes.
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Agreed he is not Wes seems to be the only complaint that people have. Sure we would like to see more production but give it time but also you might not get the same production from him that Wes gave. All that said he earned his spots and deserves his chances but he is not better than Wes and should not be getting more reps.
In three seasons plus two games in 2012, (2009-2012) he has a total of 54 receptions and only one touchdown scored as a receiver (2009).

Numbers that are not very impressive.
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This guy deserves more credit than he's getting. I'm jumping on the bandwagon. It'll probably be lonely here, but screw it. Dude is a converted QB and has worked his way into the starting lineup of one of the best offenses ever to take an NFL field. I, for one, don't believe for a second that it's just to screw Welker (). He's out there because he won the job and I want to see what he can do with it. Yeah, it'll take some time, but give him a chance. He might actually turn out to be worthy.
There's actually some anecdotal evidence to back this up. Edelman reportedly worked his tail off with Brady during the off-season while Welker was going through his contract turmoil. Plus, BB has stated that he has improved EVERY aspect of his game over last year. And let's face it: with the ongoing emphasis on tight ends in the passing game plus addition of a legit outside threat in Lloyd, slot receiver isn't as vital to the passing game as before.

Edelman isn't as good a receiver as Welker, but he apparently is good enough that the drop-off isn't catastrophic. Another key is that he's quite arguably a better punt returner than Wes. It seems likely to me that Welker won't be back next season and that Edelman is his (younger) replacement.

Finally, Edelman has shown added versatility playing defensive back AND I would presume he's likely the third (emergency) quarterback given his college background. Add it up and his elevation of status makes sense from the team's perspective while not boding well for Welker being a Patriot after this season.

It might end up that Wes shot himself in the foot by playing hardball in contract negotiations (especially at his age) and not signing a team-friendly pact vs. signing the franchise tag.
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I'm not 100% sure Wes is better. That's the point of putting Edelman out there. We have to figure out what he is in real time. Wes is great and certainly has the production behind him to say he deserves to be out there. Now, I won't be surprised in the least if it turns out that Edelman can't live up to Wes, but I acknowledge there's a slim chance.

Correct we if I'm wrong, but Edelman isn't getting more reps than Wes, the whole hubbub is abotu the fact the Edelman is getting on the field at all, which is taking a few snaps away from Wes.
We've also seen Shawn Crable get 100% snaps one week and cut the next. We can't read into these things, they are complicated. Edelman could've been getting snaps just to rest Welker. The team might simply be pushing Edelman to see where he can play. They may be rewarding a strong camp from him. They may be using Edelman as a stopgap until bringing Branch and/or Gaffney back, using those roster moves to bolster overall WR depth by acquiring Salas and getting him to the PS safely a few weeks into the season, and getting those vets signed up on non-guaranteed contracts.

Who knows?

Either way, snaps don't mean a lot. Production does.
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JE is a gamer and I'm sure no one is questioning that. My thing here is if its not broke why fix it. In this case Welker perfected it. He's been #1 slot receiver or as I like to refer to him as just Receiver. It's not like D coordinators came up with a sure fire scheme to stop Welker especially with our 2 TEs in.
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