The Official Patriots vs Titans POST game thread

[AndyJohnson]

Originally Posted by Brady_to_Moss

A deep threat has been missing since Moss left. Someone who can burn the CB. And lloyd is that deep threat

"Deep threat" is overrated IMO, but a WR who can run every route effectively is a very good thing.
We now have one of those and a second playing TE in Gronk.

[Brady_to_Moss]

Originally Posted by AndyJohnson

"Deep threat" is overrated IMO, but a WR who can run every route effectively is a very good thing.
We now have one of those and a second playing TE in Gronk.

See i don't think it's overrated at all. Say you had Welker and Edleman on the outside or Welker and ****ty chad johnson. it would make it tougher for gronk and hernandez IMO

But lloyd is a great route runner who catches everything with great speed and loves mcdaniels. Recipe for success

[FirstAndGoal]

Originally Posted by DaBruinz

The pats gave up 229 yards Passing. A far stretch from 300..

No, they gave up 273 yards. You're not counting Hasselbeck's yards.

[AndyJohnson]

Originally Posted by Brady_to_Moss

See i don't think it's overrated at all. Say you had Welker and Edleman on the outside or Welker and ****ty chad johnson. it would make it tougher for gronk and hernandez IMO

But lloyd is a great route runner who catches everything with great speed and loves mcdaniels. Recipe for success

You still have to cover the routes regardless of who runs them.
A 'deep threat' catches a handful of deep passes in a season and contrary to what some believe doesn't change the way a defense plays.
A COMPLETE receiver can dictate coverages, but when you have all of the weapons we do, you force a defense to play honestly and give that receiver room to operate.

[AndyJohnson]

Originally Posted by FirstAndGoal

No, they gave up 273 yards. You're not counting Hasselbeck's yards.

264 actually, but more importantly 284 yards of total offense.
In 2011 a defense allowing 284/game would have ranked 2nd in the NFL, and a team allowing 13 ppg would have been first.
What exactly are we criticizing?

[mgteich]

As you might recall, Hobbs used to return kicks. We can hope Vereen is healthy for next week.

Originally Posted by RelocatedPatFan

Confused
I just don't feel we should have a starting defender/CB returning kicks [McCourty]

[condon84]

VEry impressed by our sure tackling.

Hightower to me was the most impressive rookie and one of the most impressive defenders overall.

Wilfork was awesome once again.

Ninkovich didn't do much. It'll be interesting if Cunningham ever supplants him as a starter.

Jones looked great defending the run, but aside from his sack, didn't really do much rushing the QB.

Ridley was great but our run blocking has to be commended for opening holes.

[Brady_to_Moss]

Originally Posted by AndyJohnson

A 'deep threat' catches a handful of deep passes in a season and contrary to what some believe doesn't change the way a defense plays.

I bet they change how the secondary plays more than you think especially if you have two on the outside. 1 maybe not

[AndyJohnson]

Originally Posted by Brady_to_Moss

I bet they change how the secondary plays more than you think especially if you have two on the outside. 1 maybe not

Well, we aren't going to agree on this, so we should probably move on.

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Originally Posted by RelocatedPatFan

Confused
I just don't feel we should have a starting defender/CB returning kicks [McCourty]

I don't like it either especially if McCourty plays as solid as he was today (I'm of the crowd who felt he did decent). Hopefully when Vereen comes back they'll finally put him back there.