KontradictioN

IMO, the team would be screwed either way if Brady went down. Neither guy looks like they could manage this roster the way Cassel did in 2008. But, then again, Cassel didn't look like he could manage the roster in the preseason that year the way Cassel did in 2008.

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patfanken

All these comments sound remarkably similar to those being made back in after the preseason games back in 2008. Like I've said before. Think about what you think about Mallet/Hoyer right now, and it was worse back then..

Deus Irae

In 2008, I defended Cassel. In 2012, I'll defend Hoyer, but to a lesser degree since I think he showed a frustration that was unhealthy under the circumstances. However, as I pointed out elsewhere, Mallett made the same bad read/pass on the sideline pass in 3 of the 4 games. Repeating mistakes like that is a problem that tells me the kid's not ready.

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MoLewisrocks

That's the problem with focusing on the pre season alone and also on focusing on production at the position as opposed to running the offense however undermanned in the same way Brady would. The test on gameday is as much about the other two dozen odd guys who may be fighting for roster spots as it is about the backup competition, sometimes even moreso. Cassel had already proven enough. Hoyer has as well. They still don't know what Mallett is. His ceiling might be higher or he might simply never achieve it. Hoyer may have topped out. Ditto Cassel. But their floor to ceiling ratio was within average starter range (given what that is in this league today). Mallett's floor still remains as lower just as his potential ceiling remains high. Won't matter until he closes his own gap.

DocHoliday

Honestly they both suck and we're looking really hard to see a glimpse of 01 Brady in two guys that just don't have the magic.

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ctpatsfan77

I'm not sure which half of that sentence is more wrong.

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Steve:Section 102

he sucks, you want a third round, and you want Vince Young? Sorry, this makes zero sense to me. If he sucks, why would you hold out for a third? The very fact you want a third means the guy has some ability. Vince Young, of the -3 wonderlick score? That Vince Young? Please, child.

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ctpatsfan77

I'd sooner let Vince Wilfork sling the rock.

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Ian

I gave Hoyer the benefit of the doubt and had my reservations about Mallett, but looking at the body of work we've seen this preseason - which overall wasn't earthshattering - my thoughts were they may just opt to move on from Hoyer and grab someone for the PS. They need the roster spot, and I just don't feel like under the circumstances Hoyer has done enough to stay. The worst part is he didn't even play well enough to give them value in a trade at this point (maybe a 6th or 7th?). It's just disappointing.

If you look at the passing charts I posted, they're more or less dead even. They drafted Mallett with the plan of him being here for the long haul anyway, so it wouldn't surprise me if that starts now. Let's face it, if Brady goes down and Mallett does too, things will have had to go pretty wrong and we'll have bigger things to worry about

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KontradictioN

I wasn't a supporter of the Mallett pick when it happened (I thought there were wiser ways to spend that pick, and still do) but I have been a supporter of Mallett throughout the offseason. I highlighted the possibility that he could have been possibly drafted to be Brady's eventual replacement, but that he had some extensive work to do beforehand. That extensive work, in his second year, still doesn't look like it's been done. He's still relying way too much on his God-given physical tools and not enough on his brain. His decision making is lacking and his accuracy is sometimes woefully off on throws. The decision making is something he needs to fix on his own, and it may never happen. The off accuracy is due to his mechanics from what I can see. Often times, and especially with pressure in his face, Mallett has a tendency to not step all the way into his throws and instead becomes a statue in the pocket. The result has been some bad passes, many of which are typically behind the receiver on slants and crossing routes.

Either way, though, neither guy has looked particularly good. If Brady went down this year (God forbid), we would once again benefit from what looks to be an easy schedule the way we did in 2008 having to play the NFC West and AFC South for our out of division games. But let's hope it doesn't come to that because I've seen quite a few things from Hoyer that give me pause as well.

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