Wes Welker Speculation thread (pure opinion)

[Joker]

well, think about it...this third game looks to be THE game of preseason...so I expect to see the #1 offense out there for at least the first half...if we don't see Welker, then your opinion would seem to carry a lot of weight...obviously...and then all hell will break loose in the media...

[MoLewisrocks]

Originally Posted by supafly

While I'm not really predicting a WWW trade, the thought did cross my mind tonight.

I am simply wondering if it crossed anyone else's lately.

I'm still finding it hard to believe that Belichick will be okay with paying 10 million for a one year rental, and I think that is having some effect.

As we all know, no one is past the point of making the team as a whole--better.

I am SURE that it has crossed Belichick's mind at some point, we can probably agree on that.

Belichick paid $7.2M to rent Asante Samuel for one more season (in which we went to the Superbowl but let's not rehash how well that played out) and he just blew $10M on the short term rental of 2 former Bengals. He's not losing sleep over Welker's $9.5M and neither should you. It's only money and Kraft obviously has plenty of that.

[supafly]

Originally Posted by Deus Irae

A one year rental at the tune of 10 million dollars when we will not get anything in return just hasn't made much sense to me lately from a Belichickian standpoint.

[Rob0729]

Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks

Belichick paid $7.2M to rent Asante Samuel for one more season (in which we went to the Superbowl but let's not rehash how well that played out) and he just blew $10M on 2 former Bengals. He's not losing sleep over Welker's $9.5M and neither should you. It's only money and Kraft obviously has plenty of that.

Considering the Pats are about $10 million under the cap and could get the $3.8 million back on the cap next year from Fanene, Belichick doesn't have to worry about cap room. And the actual dollars aren't his money.

I don't see Kraft ever telling Belichick that he has to trade Welker because he doesn't want to pay $9.5 million to him.

[supafly]

Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks

Belichick paid $7.2M to rent Asante Samuel for one more season (in which we went to the Superbowl but let's not rehash how well that played out) and he just blew $10M on 2 former Bengals. He's not losing sleep over Welker's $9.5M and neither should you. It's only money and Kraft obviously has plenty of that.

Yes, but I do think that there may be more value there in Welker's situation.

Although I myself would not agree with the move, one has to admit that Belichick himself probably has thought about it this summer.

I'm not pulling it out of left field, especially if we're going to more of a balanced attack as the picture seems to point. FB, running game, TE, addition of high draft picks on defense, addition of more proven WR's, etc.

[Christopher Patriot]

I agree 100 percent.
Welker to the Colts makes all the sense in the world, when I read the cryptic tweets of Mr Irsay it makes sense.
At first thought I was thinking, Maurice Jones Drew but then I was thinking What if it's Welker the fact he was held out of practice the fact that earlier in training camp they were working Hernandez on Welkers routes.
This would do 2 things give us extra draft picks for next year "
''future"
Move a veteran to a team ready to compete right away and provide Luck with a security blanket and true professional.
Makes alot of sense but as Irsay said these things could fall apart.

[ATippett56]

Originally Posted by supafly

3. The likelihood that a FB will be on the team, which points to more use of the running game. It would certainly make sense for Belichick to want to use more of a balanced attack as he was probably not thrilled with the TOP factor and the inability to close out some of the games last year.

The likelihood of a fullback on the roster is sheer speculation on your part. The ability to run the football requires the offensive line to run block which was absent against the Philadelphia Eagles this preseason.

The onus of the TOP factor is on the New England Patriots defense; the ability for the New England Patriots defense to get off the field on third down was a major stumbling block last season.

[supafly]

Originally Posted by Rob0729

Considering the Pats are about $10 million under the cap and could get the $3.8 million back on the cap next year from Fanene, Belichick doesn't have to worry about cap room. And the actual dollars aren't his money.

I don't see Kraft ever telling Belichick that he has to trade Welker because he doesn't want to pay $9.5 million to him.

No, but having 10 million more dollars to carry over on top of the money we already have would make sense in a future building standpoint of the team.

Again, I'm not saying that's what I want, but that the thought has been out there.

It's a downtime for the boards, I thought I'd at least bring up something worthwhile/creative.

Most will not agree with the thought, I stated that in my first sentence.

The idea of saving that money has been growing on me a bit, looking more at the bigger picture.

[Rob0729]

Originally Posted by supafly

A one year rental at the tune of 10 million dollars when we will not get anything in return just hasn't made much sense to me lately from a Belichickian standpoint.

First, you assume the Pats won't resign him next year. No one knows that.

Second, the Pats could get as high as a third round compensatory pick for him. He probably would net them a 4th rounder. So they will get something in return if Welker goes elsewhere next year.

Third, I don't know why the Colts would give up a high draft pick for Welker. They aren't Wes Welker away from competing for a Super Bowl this year. If the Colts are going to give up what could be a top 10 pick or even the #1 overall, they will want to give it up for someone they will pair with Luck for at least 4-6 years if not longer. Otherwise, why not keep the pick and draft his stud WR for the next decade next year.

[patsinthesnow]

Originally Posted by supafly

A one year rental at the tune of 10 million dollars when we will not get anything in return just hasn't made much sense to me lately from a Belichickian standpoint.

The return is we field the most stacked offense in history this season, no?