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Old 08-18-2012, 10:44 AM   #11
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On the topic of Mesko, very few people realize that his rookie year, he set the rookie record for net punting average. In his second year, he improved on that by over 3 yards. If he keeps improving, he's definitely on his way to being one of the best punters in the league.
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So, we have a kick returner who fumbles. Well, that's certainly guarantees him a roster spot on a Belichick team.


"One of the knocks on Demps is ball security, as he fumbled 11 times in 424 touches at Florida. But when he's held on to the ball, the results have been dynamic."


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Everyone knows how important special teams is to BB. Right now the Pats look pretty nicely set with talent all over the unit:

- K: Gostkowski is a former Pro Bowler and still one of the better kickers in the NFL.

- P: Zoltan Mesko is emerging as a top NFL punter. His 46.5 average was 11th last year, and his 41.5 net ranked 3rd.

- KR/PR: the Jeff Demps signing finally gives hope for a long term solution at the return position. It's early, but he's got to be an improvement over what we've had the past several years, with the exception of Brandon Tate in the first half of 2010. Julian Edelman is one of the better returners in the NFL. And if they kick it short, there's always Dan Connolly.

- Gunners: Matt Slater was an All Pro in 2011. Kyle Arrington has excelled for several years. Nate Ebner was a ST demon at Ohio St. There are a ton of other guys who should be able to contribute in a significant way - Tavon Wilson, Pat Chung, Steve Gregory, Bobby Carpenter, Danny Woodhead, Shane Vereen, etc. Plus Jeff Tarpinian/Tracy White/Niko Koutovides and Josh Barrett/Marquice Cole if they make the squad.

This is shaping up to be a pretty good unit, especially if Demps can solve the KR problem and Ebner emerges as a force.
I agree completely.. Looking like a real strength.. I think Tavon Wilson is going to add a lot to the group as well.
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So, we have a kick returner who fumbles. Well, that's certainly guarantees him a roster spot on a Belichick team.


"One of the knocks on Demps is ball security, as he fumbled 11 times in 424 touches at Florida. But when he's held on to the ball, the results have been dynamic."
I'm betting that Belichick knew about this when he made the signing.
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So, we have a kick returner who fumbles. Well, that's certainly guarantees him a roster spot on a Belichick team.


"One of the knocks on Demps is ball security, as he fumbled 11 times in 424 touches at Florida. But when he's held on to the ball, the results have been dynamic."
every player has some flaw coming out. ball security is generally correctable at this level. I am sure if he had the work ethic to be a olympic medal winner he will have the work ethic to correct his ball security.
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Agreed.

Belichick thought that it would be worth the effort to give Demps a chance to make the team.

Do YOU think that Belichick will have Demps as our active kick returner for Game One? A roster spot is a different issue. We can afford a developmental player or two, if they have enough upside.

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Agreed.

Belichick thought that it would be worth the effort to give Demps a chance to make the team.

Do YOU think that Belichick will have Demps as our active kick returner for Game One? A roster spot is a different issue. We can afford a developmental player or two, if they have enough upside.
Barring an absolutely disastrous 19+/- days, I expect Demps to be returning kicks for game one. Whether he's in on regular plays by then is something I currently question.
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It's not essential to this thread that he does (though I personally think he will). If he doesn't, whoever beats [Ebner] out - Barrett, Cole, or someone else - will have to be an ace STer.
Marquice Cole already comes w/ the rep as a VG STer; I can envision an opening Day 53
w/ both he & Ebner on it. The good news is, Cole & Ebner also have potential as Defensive Backs.
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every player has some flaw coming out. ball security is generally correctable at this level. I am sure if he had the work ethic to be a olympic medal winner he will have the work ethic to correct his ball security.
One flaw he will not be able to correct, however, is his puny hands. I'm afraid that fumbling will be an issue for him throughout his career, which I hope is a long & productive one.
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The question is can he learn enough of the playbook on offense to add depth there? If so who get's cut? Either Bolden and they hope to slide him to the practice squad or they try to deal Woodhead before the cuts come down.
I'm guessing no one gets cut initially and the decision won't need to be made until after week 6. Demps will be placed on PUP until he is in football shape (many player have to drop weight to pass their physical, Demps will have to add weight). By the time Demps comes off the PUP, I'm sure there will be an injury or two which will open a roster spot for him.
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