So is Dont'a Hightower getting reps as an 'edge rusher' in nickel? - New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard
NEWS
|
FORUM
|
PHOTOS
|
VIDEOS
|
FULL STATS DATABASE
|
PODCAST
|
RUMOR MILL
Get Social With PatsFans.com
Five Thoughts On Tebow
'13 NFL Previews Are In
Tebow at QB? No Way

Go Back   New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard > PatsFans.com Forums > PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum
Forgot Password? Join PatsFans.com!
Register Blogs FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Mark Forums Read Chat Room

WELCOME TO OUR FORUM HERE AT PATSFANS.COM!
ARE YOU NEW HERE? NOT LOGGED IN? PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REGISTER FOR AN ACCOUNT AND LOGIN TO REMOVE THIS WINDOW

Welcome to PatsFans.com. Do you have an account? If not - please take a moment to register for our forum and experience a much smoother experience with fewer ads, along with no longer having to see this notification window. Also learn about how you can receive a free Patriots T-Shirt from the Patriots Official ProShop by CLICKING HERE. Please enjoy your stay here, and Go Pats!

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-03-2012, 04:54 PM   #1
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
 
Shockt327's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 840
My Mood: Shocked
Default So is Dont'a Hightower getting reps as an 'edge rusher' in nickel?

I can't help but ask for a couple of reason...

First, I've seen plenty of YouTube cut ups of Alabama's D; where Hightower did indeed move into the strong side DE role when they went into Nickel. He looked good. Especially with Upshaw on the other end. I was hoping Jones and Hightower could create a similar dynamic in NE...

Second, because I really can't help but be concerned about that LDE position in Nickel (as well as base). We just never found a true starter, IMO. We tried putting Deaderick out there at times. I know Nink got a ton of reps at Nickel. Anderson did too, mostly later in the year. But it just seems like we never found our guy. I know Fanene can be used there, too. But I see him as being a DT really. They'd still need to rotate, either way. So, just curious. Haven't really heard anything about Hightower taking reps in that role, or if he has, specifically how he did....

Last edited by Shockt327; 08-03-2012 at 06:49 PM..
Shockt327 is offline  
FEATURED ADVERTISEMENT
DONATE TO PATSFANS.COM
RECEIVE A FREE PATS T-SHIRT AND SAVE 15% OFF WHEN YOU BUY FROM THE OFFICIAL PROSHOP!

Free T-Shirt & Save 15% Off!
Like Our Site? Please help support our site and server costs by DONATING TO PATSFANS.COM and receive a FREE PATRIOTS T-SHIRT and SAVE 15% off EVERY purchase you make from PatriotsProShop.com. You'll also receive added benefits to your account
including Removing All Ads During Your Experience Here At Our Forum.

NEEDED YEARLY SITE DONATIONS: 345 | CURRENT # OF SUBSCRIBED SUPPORTERS: 98

Updated 07/08/11

Help Us Reach Our Goal!

Old 08-03-2012, 05:09 PM   #2
Moderatrix
 
patchick's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: MA
Posts: 10,336
Default Re: So is Dont'a Hightower getting reps as an 'edge rusher' in nickel?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shockt327 View Post
I can't help but ask for a couple of reason...

First, I've seen plenty of YouTube cut ups of Alabama's D; where Hightower did indeed move into the strong side DE role when they went into Nickel. He looked good. Especially with Upshaw on the other end. I was hoping Jones and Hightower could create a similar dynamic in NE...

Second, because I really can't help but be concerned about that RDE position in Nickel (as well as base).
Psst...see the thread discussing Bedard's claim that Chandler Jones is the RDE:
Greg Bedard: Chandler Jones ready to be a full time starter
patchick is offline  
Old 08-03-2012, 05:12 PM   #3
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
mayoclinic's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 9,780
Default Re: So is Dont'a Hightower getting reps as an 'edge rusher' in nickel?

Quote:
Originally Posted by patchick View Post
Psst...see the thread discussing Bedard's claim that Chandler Jones is the RDE:
Greg Bedard: Chandler Jones ready to be a full time starter
Also, didn't Deaderick mainly play LDE last year, not RDE? Carter played mostly RDE, with Anderson at LDE in pass rushing situations, until Carter got hurt and Anderson moved to RDE.

If Jones can indeed lock up the RDE position as Bedard suggests, that would leave Fanene/Deaderick able to split time between LDE and pass rushing DT duties, with RDE in pass rushing situations being covered by Bequette, Scott, o by Hightower or Ninko moving up from a LB position.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
"OVER Loading at ANY position can create a Fatal Advantage. THAT is what interests ME. Attacking With Concentrated Force. THAT is what WINS. In the words ~ more or less ~ of General Patton: 'I'm fighting a WAR, here. Let the B*****ES worry about their FLANKS.' " - Off the Grid

"The key to any successful organization is to anticipate things, not react to them." - Michael Lombardi
mayoclinic is offline  
Old 08-03-2012, 05:16 PM   #4
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
Sciz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Iowa
Posts: 5,936
My Mood: Yeehaw
Default Re: So is Dont'a Hightower getting reps as an 'edge rusher' in nickel?

I wouldn't expect it. They actually have a pretty good looking group of edge rushers now. I'm more interested in if he can beat out Carpenter and Fletcher for the subpackage LB job next to Mayo.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fake Nate Ebner
No big deal...only took me 3 defensive plays to be drafted before Tom Brady
Sciz is online now  
Old 08-03-2012, 06:51 PM   #5
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
 
Shockt327's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 840
My Mood: Shocked
Default Re: So is Dont'a Hightower getting reps as an 'edge rusher' in nickel?

Quote:
Originally Posted by patchick View Post
Psst...see the thread discussing Bedard's claim that Chandler Jones is the RDE:
Greg Bedard: Chandler Jones ready to be a full time starter
Oh, that just a typo on my part (RDE when I meant LDE).

Like I said; I'm hoping we see both Jones and Hightower coming off the edge in Nickel....

Last edited by Shockt327; 08-03-2012 at 06:53 PM..
Shockt327 is offline  
Old 08-03-2012, 08:08 PM   #6
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
mayoclinic's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 9,780
Default Re: So is Dont'a Hightower getting reps as an 'edge rusher' in nickel?

Alen Dumonjic (who has provided analysis for Greg Bedard, among others) had an interesting read on Hightower this week:

Quote:
Hightower's likely to get a lot of snaps between strong and weak-side linebacker, especially the former because he would be a great asset when the team plays their 'Under' front. An 'Under' front is when the defensive tackle ('three-technique') covers up the weak-side guard and the strong-side linebacker, which would be Hightower, is on the line of scrimmage.

This is a very interesting alignment for the Patriots because Hightower can disrupt the timing of the tight end coming off the line of scrimmage by jamming and rerouting him, which is ideal because of his strength, prior to blitzing after the quarterback. Furthermore, when New England goes to their sub-package along with a four-man front, Hightower's likely to slide down to defensive end and look to get after the quarterback. His ability to do this is interesting because he can also execute drops in coverage from this alignment when the Patriots go to their zone blitzes. He can also force offensive lineman question their blocking assignments by easily going from a three- to two-point stance.

Hightower's versatility was likely the selling point for Bill Belichick when it came to the debate over selecting him in the first round. Belichick emphasis versatility in order to save roster spots to utilize on other crucial positions, which is why Hightower makes so much sense in New England.

The biggest question with Hightower will be is how long it takes him to learn the defense and his various assignments.Based off of what I was told by a source that was at the University of Alabama yesterday, the coaches at Alabama were told that Hightower has impressed the Patriots coaches with his knowledge, maturity and overall character on and off the field, which suggests his concentration on football could lead to him picking the playbook up quicker.
What Does Dont'a Hightower's Versatility Bring to the Patriots' Defense? | Bleacher Report

FWIW, Dumonjic had an interesting article on the Tavon Wilson pick over 2 months ago, which was a really nice piece of analysis:

Patriots' Rookie Tavon Wilson: Breaking Down the Enigma of the 48th Pick | Bleacher Report

From all the training camp reports so far, Dumonjic's analysis of why the Wilson pick made sense was spot on. It will be interesting to see how his analysis of Hightower plays out.
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
"OVER Loading at ANY position can create a Fatal Advantage. THAT is what interests ME. Attacking With Concentrated Force. THAT is what WINS. In the words ~ more or less ~ of General Patton: 'I'm fighting a WAR, here. Let the B*****ES worry about their FLANKS.' " - Off the Grid

"The key to any successful organization is to anticipate things, not react to them." - Michael Lombardi
mayoclinic is offline  
Old 08-03-2012, 08:46 PM   #7
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
 
Shockt327's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 840
My Mood: Shocked
Default Re: So is Dont'a Hightower getting reps as an 'edge rusher' in nickel?

Yeah, I like the article. That perfectly describes the role that I want to see him in...

...but the author is just speculating. We really haven't had any reports of Hightower taking reps in this role (have we?). Have we heard anything about Hightower taking reps in pass rushing drills?
Shockt327 is offline  
Old 08-03-2012, 09:09 PM   #8
Banned
 

Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,106
Default Re: So is Dont'a Hightower getting reps as an 'edge rusher' in nickel?

Quote:
Originally Posted by mayoclinic View Post
This is a very interesting alignment for the Patriots because Hightower can disrupt the timing of the tight end coming off the line of scrimmage by jamming and rerouting him, which is ideal because of his strength ....
This was BADLY needed against Heath Miller last year. Not having a guy like Hightower cost them the game.
BananaRepublican is offline  
Old 08-03-2012, 09:10 PM   #9
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
PatsWickedPissah's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: New Hampster!
Posts: 19,502
My Mood: Grumpy
Default Re: So is Dont'a Hightower getting reps as an 'edge rusher' in nickel?

No he was not getting those reps Friday
__________________
"Would I rather have my phone records collected and inspected by the National Security Agency, or have my genitalia handled and scrutinized by the Transportation Security Administration? Why choose? In today’s America you can have both."
PatsWickedPissah is offline  
Old 08-03-2012, 09:12 PM   #10
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
 
Shockt327's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 840
My Mood: Shocked
Default Re: So is Dont'a Hightower getting reps as an 'edge rusher' in nickel?

Quote:
Originally Posted by PatsWickedPissah View Post
No he was not getting those reps Friday
Yeah, I thought not. I was there on Wednesday and I didn't see it either.
Shockt327 is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Sponsored Links



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Welcome Dont'a Hightower to the New England Patriots Reckedtrek PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum 18 05-02-2012 09:46 AM
Alabama LB Dont'a Hightower everlong Patriots Draft Talk 14 04-27-2012 10:24 AM
Player Bio: Dont'a Hightower PatsFans.com Article PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum 0 04-26-2012 10:50 PM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:33 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

© Copyright 2000-2012. PatsFans.com Is a Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties.
The opinions posted in this forum do not necessarily reflect the opinions of our staff at PatsFans.com or USA Today.
We are not affiliated with the New England Patriots™ or the NFL™. The Photo Used In the header was taken by Ian Logue.

This site is owned and operated by I&K Internet Design Enterprises, LLC


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566