Snake Eyes

How were Welker's numbers in Miami? Do you think coming to NE had anything to do with him taking off? To dismiss that when assessing the situation is comfusing facts with reality.

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Snake Eyes

Comparing Welker v. Harvin is not the same as advocating a trade. There's been PLENTY of discussion of aquiring him with a draft pick so it's NOT limited just to a trade like you suggest.

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Ivan

How were Ocho's numbers before coming to NE? You want to trade a given for a maybe, you're the one speculating, not me, I'm going off of proven production. Welker is on the same page as Brady and produces at the highest level, that's a fact, Harvin could play well or could falter with a complex offense, that's a question? Trading a proven exceptional player for one that may or may not pan out is stupid.

Ivan

You chimed in supporting a trade I was rebutting, that was your choice.

Deus Irae

Both I and Ivan have already dealt with this, so I won't revisit the actual discussion. I just wanted to note that Harvin's a very talented player who's on-the-field game would be intriguing to pair with the Patriots, but his off-the-field situations are something to think about, the timing of this is bad, and the "pipe dream" would have been more in line with team needs prior to

Welker signing Franchise tag
Lloyd signing
Gaffney signing


This is not a case like the Wallace pipe dream, where there was a clear need and at least a legitimate and current avenue for bringing in the player (RFA offer sheet) as opposed to the idea of getting a guy in trade when he's not currently available in trade.

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