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The Patriots had Allen in last year, before he settled on Miami. This year, they've signed him. Now, it's certainly possible that he'll get cut, but I think that giving him short shrift as an option for the roster is a mistake.
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How many "pure" DL's do you see us keeping. In the listing below, you have us keeping 6-7. If this is accurate, do we have any DL competition at all? Do we have any other options in case of injury?
I am fine with this list of 6-7. However, I see Belichick picking up a player or two before camp for competition, as camp fodder (to take camp reps) and for insurance against injuries.
That is, in fact, the issue. We have no depth, or competition, and frankly not great starting talent either. This is the biggest overall weakness on the team IMO.
In that one game:
.5 sacks
3 QB Hits
1 tackle for no gain
All in 28 snaps
Sadly that is pretty much his career. BTW I'm not impressed with QB hits after the QB who threw for over 400 yards got rid of the ball.
Half a sack and a tackle aren't exactly my idea of dominanting 28 plays.
He played in one game and was hurt in the 2nd, without a tackle or assist. What major impact?
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In that one game:
.5 sacks
3 QB Hits
1 tackle for no gain
All in 28 snaps
Andy, I don't have access to tape of the Miami game, but my recollection is that Pryor, Haynesworth and Wilfork were dominant in that game. Probably in that order. I'm not a big fan of ESPN statistics and ProFootballFocus, but they graded out Pryor very highly after that game, FWIW. Chris Forsberg noted:
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In an offseason that saw the Patriots beef up their defensive line with a number of big-name additions like Albert Haynesworth, Shaun Ellis, Andre Carter, and Mark Anderson, it might have been third-year defensive tackle Myron Pryor who made the biggest splash in Monday's season-opening triumph in Miami.
Pryor played less than 40 percent of the team's total snaps, but got credited with a team-high three quarterback hits, a half sack, and two tackles. But that doesn't quite sum up his impact. According to analytical site Pro Football Focus, which grades players based on overall performance, Pryor graded out as +4.2, which wasn't just tops on the Patriots, it was the second best grade among all defensive tackles in Week 1 (second only to Cleveland's Phil Taylor, but ahead of Baltimore's Haloti Ngata at +3.9, Oakland's Richard Seymour at +3.7, and Haynesworth at +3.5).
Pryor's efforts helped the Patriots -- often scolded for an anemic pass rush a season ago -- grade out as the top pass rushing defense in Week 1 with PFF assigning a +12 rating (only two other teams were +10 or better). By comparison, the Patriots graded out at -0.1 last season, seventh worst in the league.
The Pats held Miami to 2/14 on 3rd down in that game, and as I recall Pryor's internal pressure had something to do with that. He was consistent generating interior pressure that rushed Henne, even though that doesn't show up on the stat sheet.
ProFootballFocus noted:
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Going into the game you’d be forgiven for wondering if Albert Haynesworth (+3.5) could be the man to turn the Patriots defense into something special. On this showing he may certainly help, but there was a more eye catching display from another member of the rotation. Just how good could Myron Pryor (+4.2) be? With a lightening quick first step he was too hot to handle for all members of the Dolphins interior, none more so than Vernon Carey. He ended the day with a sack, two hits and three further pressures (compared to a still impressive hit and three pressures from Haynesworth).
That wasn't "garbage time" pressure after the game was already decided. I'll stand by my "major impact" comment. Pryor was an impact player in the Maimi game. We didn't get to see whether that game was a flash in the pan or whether Pryor was going to become a consistent weapon on a regualr basis. I'll be curious to see where he picks up going into training camp.
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The Patriots had Allen in last year, before he settled on Miami. This year, they've signed him. Now, it's certainly possible that he'll get cut, but I think that giving him short shrift as an option for the roster is a mistake.
I think that is a fair statement.
It will all depend on how many CB's are kept, and if Belichick feels that W.Allen can possibly contribute at safety in a pinch (which I would assume that many CB's could viably do if asked, obviously on different levels).
Most importantly, as mayoclinic pointed out, injuries will come into the mix too.
At this current juncture of time, he may be close to where I had him ranked, giving or taking a spot or two, depending on personal opinion. When the dog days of summer come in TC, he may very well be higher or even lower.
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