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Old 05-14-2012, 10:21 AM   #21
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I agree with the captain. He's clearly going to be cut. Its not a matter of if, but when. There's no harm in bringing him back in and kicking the tires. Now that he's a college graduate he might be smart enough to realize that $1MM is more than he'd make for working 6 months anywhere else.

Of course he'd have to be health and in great shape. We heeded to draft a 3-4 DE, and we didn't. Now if Ty is healthy we can have one we know can do the job, on the cheap for a year, and draft one next year. For Ty will be a chance to come home and chase one more ring before moving on to the next phase of his life.....graduate school.
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Were he cut I'd be up for a return look-see at low $. Could likely be better that the other same named geezer DE on the roster.
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Were he cut I'd be up for a return look-see at low $. Could likely be better that the other same named geezer DE on the roster.
A healthy TY Warren >>>>>>>>>>>> Gerard Warren
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even healthy, I don't see him being anything near what he used to be,,,,,,
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even healthy, I don't see him being anything near what he used to be,,,,,,
Would he not be better than Pryor,Brace,G. Warren or Love?

I think he would still be 2nd best on the DL...But only if he was 100% healthy and was in top condition should he ever be considered if he gets cut.
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Where you are going wrong here is that they are honored. The problem isn't that either party isn't honoring the contract they signed. They are. You don't like the language? Easy, don't sign it and go somewhere else for another contract you do like.

I have a suggestion for the bleeding hearts out there that always seem to think these guys are being taken advantage of unfairly by the meany owners: Learn what a contract is. It's an agreement by two parties that can and will be enforced legally if need be.
Agreed. The basic negotiating tactic between owners and players is to be as aggressive and assertive as possible. Teams need to manage their salary cap and players need to collect as much income as they can during a limited career. There are obviously grey areas in this for some players (sorta like Tom or Peyton). There's little irony or surprise to me that players will hold out for more money than their current contract provides, given the fact that they can be cut on the other end of it without much/any say.
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Would he not be better than Pryor,Brace,G. Warren or Love?

I think he would still be 2nd best on the DL...But only if he was 100% healthy and was in top condition should he ever be considered if he gets cut.
depends on how much his skills had diminished. I'd hate to let one of the young guys go and wind up somewhere else only to have warren get hurt before the end of training camp.

besides....I think marcus fortson will be better than any of the young guys or warren.
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Ty Warren missed the last two seasons with injuries, and made getting his degree a higher priority than being in a condition to allow him to earn his enormous NFL salary.

Let some other team pay this "hanger on". The Pats already did that last year with Ellis. Let's take our chances with a younger, hungrier player.
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besides....I think marcus fortson will be better than any of the young guys or warren.
I think Forston might be the 2nd best DT on the roster.
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Want no part of Ty Warren, most overrated since Richard Seymour. I remember him sitting out offseason stuff to further his education and then immediately getting injured. G-bye!
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Want no part of Ty Warren, most overrated since Richard Seymour. I remember him sitting out offseason stuff to further his education and then immediately getting injured. G-bye!
Richard Seymour is going to end up in the Hall Of Fame. I'm not really sure how "overrated" is supposed to enter that picture. Was he considered the best to ever play the game by someone you once spoke to, or something like that?
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