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Old 03-11-2012, 01:27 AM   #1
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Default A bad year for DBs in both free agency and the draft?

Reporting is suggesting that, in FA and the draft alike, this is a weak year for CBs and a lousy one for safeties. If that is correct, then it suggests that the Pats have to do some combination of:

  • Beat the odds.
  • Make do with what they have.
  • Strengthen the pass rush to protect a questionable secondary.

In particular, absent good luck, the safety corps will consist of:
  • Chung
  • JAGs
  • Natural CBs
That said, on nickel downs I don't see the harm in having the DB corps be:
  • Chung
  • 4 natural CBs
And even in a base formation, I don't see why McCourty or Arrington couldn't play the safety role.

What I do worry about is that safeties really need to avoid mental mistakes, and I'm not sure where that mental accuracy is supposed to come from in a new young guy, or in a moonlighting CB.
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Beat the odds? How about using some currency you are flush with, picks for example, and peering lose a player that would otherwise be locked up. A RFA, or just a player desired FAIK, think the lead up to 07. Poor year for an area of need, and we trade a second and fourth (and I think a late round throw in for Wes to calm the waters?) for a valued player and disgruntled locker room cancer with HOF talent. Why not go that route this year?

Is Troy Palaumalu (doubt he'd get traded, but he was injured last year and that defense isn't getting any younger, they'd probably sniff out an excellent lb with the pick) the next Rodney? I don't know what his contract situation is. Could Leonard be the next Jests casualty?

Maybe we look to beef up the front seven? Spikes seems to have a 2 cent head, also don't envision gin sticking around with free agency. Who plays Olb? DE? Pressure up front could do wonders for these kids.

Finally, what I expect to enjoy a lot this season, where will Edelman see most his reps? Where will he make use of said reps well. I am no expert, but so remember thinking he showed zero fear to mix it up on defense, and obviously needs to work in his tackling. Maybe he breaks out at wr if he isn't being depended on fire the defensive secondary. I'd have to imagine after seeing some time on the other side of things last year must be an aid to reading a defense and getting on the same page as Brady? And didn't he hurt Fake LT last year or at least shake him up before someone else got his leg? That has to count for something...
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I agree and think there are 2 ways of attacking the weakness:

1. We do what you said, and use a possibility of more "CB based" looks at FS. We already have 3 guys at CB that could possibly play the position, and are more of a versatile, hybrid role in McCourty, Moore, and Dowling. The possibility exists to add another specific player such as Richard Marshall, who has played both positions (CB and FS) in an effective manner. Or, we could also draft a more pure CB based player straight up in the draft, or in FA--and move one of the mentioned 3 (Moore, McCourty, Dowling) over to FS at least in sub packages.

2. Draft, or add a FS such as Harrison Smith or Reggie Nelson through the off-season process.

I think that it may take some creativity, as you say, but we should be in a better position than last year when it comes down to it.

I think the answer lies in attacking the problem through BOTH the draft and FA process, even if that means choosing a lower level acquisition in free agency.
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I found our third rounder: Markelle Martin.

Markelle Martin, Oklahoma State, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

He's tough, smart, productive and -- above all -- injured.

Similarly Omar Bolden

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...43/omar-bolden
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The Draft is loaded at CB, as is FA. Not sure what you've been reading, but it's full of wrong.
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Remember that the Pats have already added a DB with Ras-I's return. He may be better than any player in the draft or free agency.
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The Draft is loaded at CB, as is FA. Not sure what you've been reading, but it's full of wrong.
Yeah, it is safeties where both the draft and free agency is deficient, not CB. I am no draftnick so I don't know the top prospects, but Courtland Finnegan, Brandon Carr, LaDarius Webb (RFA and will cost a first round), Carlos Rogers, and a few others are all solid to great CBs. In fact, you can argue that other than WR, CB is the most fertile position in free agency.
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You can add Tyrell Thomas, Tracy Porter and Richard Marshall to that.

I'd love Thomas.
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I found our third rounder: Markelle Martin.

Markelle Martin, Oklahoma State, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

He's tough, smart, productive and -- above all -- injured.

Similarly Omar Bolden

Omar Bolden, Arizona State, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com
Both these guys seem like good fits especially if Martin can really run 4.43; that would make him the fastest safety in the class. And Martin seems to have a Patriots work ethic.

CB / Safety has to be a top need area for the Patriots so that means....they will draft a Center with the first pick or something equally surprising.
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The only 1st round value at safety is Barron but his health is questionable. I wouldn't be surpised to see the Pats go after either Smith, Martin or Iloka in the draft. They may also see if cb's like Leonard Johnson are available along with FA Webb from the Ravens. I wouldn't be surpised if the Pats draft more than one safety in the draft but FA's like Webb will cost a 1st rd pick and BB won't do it.
My prediction, the Pats sign a FA cornerback, draft one safety in the second round and another safety in the third. I could see the Pats picking two of the three avaiable...Smith, Martin or Iloka. Chung is a good player but injury prone and even though the safety class is weak this year, they need at least one starting safety from the draft.
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