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Old 02-25-2012, 07:00 AM   #21
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sign Garcon and all the Pats need is another WR named Escargot...have Garcon throw him the ball on a flanker pass..."Garcon serves up Escargot for a TD!!"...then we can rename Gostowski "The Tip"...after he boots the extra point...
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Not to mention turning down a 5 year deal from the team to whom he's worth the most surely means he'd sign here for a song...

Schefter seems to think the Colts may have been offering 5/$25M while the player sees himself as more of a 5/$41M guy...
Garcon is not worth $8 million per year. He's a #2 WR at best. Five years on any contract, as we know, does not mean five years. But it does mean a bigger guaranteed signing bonus spread out for cap purposes. Garcon is a fool for passing on that deal.
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sign Garcon and all the Pats need is another WR named Escargot...have Garcon throw him the ball on a flanker pass..."Garcon serves up Escargot for a TD!!"...then we can rename Gostowski "The Tip"...after he boots the extra point...
Amazingly enough, I've never heard a booth announcer say anything like, "the guard was flagged for holding the Mayo" although I really expected to.

Seriously, I think Garcon's route-running has improved somewhat, but he's still not great. He's deep routes DO work often enough, but I don't think he's a lot better at them than, say, Brandon Tate was. I'm not sure that he's really more than just okay on read-option adjustments, which the Colts, with Peyton, used probably as much as the Pats do with Brady. This season, with Painter, I'd have to guess his (and everybody else's) routes were simpler, more straightforward (although Orlovsky appeared to read defenses much better than Painter). Even though his numbers improved in 2011, Garcon still barely came close to 34-year-old Reggie Wayne in terms of yards, catch rate, 20-yard plays or YAC.

As old as he is, Wayne seems (IMO) likely to do better in the Pats read-option, adjustment-heavy route scheme than Garcon, and he'd obviously be cheaper. Not that I'm recommending that the Pats acquire "yet another old guy on the downside of his career", just saying that he'd be a bit higher on my list of options than Garcon.
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sign Garcon and all the Pats need is another WR named Escargot...have Garcon throw him the ball on a flanker pass..."Garcon serves up Escargot for a TD!!"...then we can rename Gostowski "The Tip"...after he boots the extra point...
If Patriots pickup Garcon, we have the 3G's : Garc, Gronk, Gost !
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Amazingly enough, I've never heard a booth announcer say anything like, "the guard was flagged for holding the Mayo" although I really expected to.

Seriously, I think Garcon's route-running has improved somewhat, but he's still not great. He's deep routes DO work often enough, but I don't think he's a lot better at them than, say, Brandon Tate was. I'm not sure that he's really more than just okay on read-option adjustments, which the Colts, with Peyton, used probably as much as the Pats do with Brady. This season, with Painter, I'd have to guess his (and everybody else's) routes were simpler, more straightforward (although Orlovsky appeared to read defenses much better than Painter). Even though his numbers improved in 2011, Garcon still barely came close to 34-year-old Reggie Wayne in terms of yards, catch rate, 20-yard plays or YAC.

As old as he is, Wayne seems (IMO) likely to do better in the Pats read-option, adjustment-heavy route scheme than Garcon, and he'd obviously be cheaper. Not that I'm recommending that the Pats acquire "yet another old guy on the downside of his career", just saying that he'd be a bit higher on my list of options than Garcon.

ReggieWayne will go where Peyton will go. Unlikely he'll head up here.

Garcon was rumored to want out of Indy. Dont blame him. Now's his chance to head to a REAL SB contender, year after year. Though, he may not get top $$, here.
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sign Garcon and all the Pats need is another WR named Escargot...have Garcon throw him the ball on a flanker pass..."Garcon serves up Escargot for a TD!!"...then we can rename Gostowski "The Tip"...after he boots the extra point...
"Garcon serves up Escargot for 6... Add one for The Tip..."

"Shouldn't that be 1.2 nowadays?"

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ReggieWayne will go where Peyton will go. Unlikely he'll head up here.

Garcon was rumored to want out of Indy. Dont blame him. Now's his chance to head to a REAL SB contender, year after year. Though, he may not get top $$, here.
That is if Peyton even plays football ever again. I don't think Wayne has any problem with the idea of switching from one HoF QB to another. The real question is how much it will cost and can Wayne adjust to the Pats system.

Garcon hasn't done it long enough to convince me. I think the Pats would prefer Wayne. Because we need to win Superbowls and fast. BB has to think really hard about what he needs to do to take this team to the final level. Two superbowl appearances in 07 and 11 but no rings has to hurt.
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Any Patriot fan who wouldn't want Pierre Garcon on the Patriots needs brain surgery. Garson have alot of upside and he is still young...he played very well with Manning...i couldn't imagine him doing worse with Brady. I hope he doesn't end up on the Houston Texans on the opposite side of Andre Johnson. That would basically put them over the Top if Matt Schaub can stay healthy. The Texans are a #2 WR away from being a legit SB contenders.
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Any Patriot fan who wouldn't want Pierre Garcon on the Patriots needs brain surgery. Garson have alot of upside and he is still young...he played very well with Manning...i couldn't imagine him doing worse with Brady. I hope he doesn't end up on the Houston Texans on the opposite side of Andre Johnson. That would basically put them over the Top if Matt Schaub can stay healthy. The Texans are a #2 WR away from being a legit SB contenders.
unless he really wants $8 million a year. I'll pass on that.
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Who would want Garcon on the Pats? I would sign him!
I would to, if he were at the minimum. I think money might be an issue, however.

Otherwise, sign everybody you can. Work 'em out at training camp and cut guys that can't, or don't - whatever.
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