Caserio on Wes (Other Free Agents) uses 13th (FA date) as deadline not 5th (tag date) - New England Patriots Forums

signbabybrady · 02-23-2012, 04:39 PM

Am I reading to much into his using the 13th as a deadline and not the 5th?

Caserio on Welker negotiation - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

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"We're going through the process. We've had conversations with our free agents at different points, whether it was in the fall. We'll continue that dialogue," Caserio said. "We have until March 13 until free agency begins. So we'll do our due diligence, we'll go through the process and see where we end up."

***MoLewisrocks*** · 02-23-2012, 05:32 PM

Probably since he was talking about all of them and there are 17 is it? I'd imagine on Welker where they are at come the 5th will determine their approach to the tag. If they are are closing in on a deal they probably won't tag him. If they remain fairly apart, they will. We don't know beyond media speculation what Wes is thinking or what they are. And what they are thinking may be effected by some of the retirement decisions they are waiting on and where they are with several of the other impending FA's.

***PatsWickedPissah*** · 02-23-2012, 07:04 PM

Wes isn't thinking much as he's down in Costa Rica with his fiancé and the Brady Bunch. If he goes all prankster and puts sand in Gisele's bikini bottoms he'll go elsewhere in FA.

jays52 · 02-23-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsWickedPissah

Wes isn't thinking much as he's down in Costa Rica with his fiancé and the Brady Bunch. If he goes all prankster and puts sand in Gisele's bikini bottoms he'll go elsewhere in FA.

Something tells me she perpetually has sand in her bikini bottom.

***PatsWickedPissah*** · 02-23-2012, 08:13 PM

Say what you will about Gisele, Tommy Boy is better off married to her than my wife. The *****ing about the last SB (2006 Colts AFCCG, 2007, and the Jets playoff win against the Pats) has yet to stop.

***jmt57*** · 02-24-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by signbabybrady

Am I reading to much into his using the 13th as a deadline and not the 5th?

Caserio on Welker negotiation - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN Boston

Rapoport expanded on the subject today; mostly speculation but for what it's worth here's his column.

BostonHerald.com - Looking at why Patriots personnel guru Nick Caserio used a different Wes Welker deadline…

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I’m told that there really is no progress to report, with the Patriots moving very slowly. Not a total surprise, but just slightly curious. They really are, as Caserio said, taking stock of their options first. If Welker did hit the free agent market, I have a funny feeling the market would be far stronger than a lot of us imagine. I bet a few teams are already kicking the idea around.

Anyway, Caserio addressed all this yesterday… but the thing that got me was that he used a different deadline. He didn’t say Welker’s issue needed to be addressed by March 5, he used the March 13 deadline for free agency. Why?

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Essentially, he bypassed the franchise tag. Does that mean it won’t be used on him? That’s what I was thinking, and that could result in Welker testing what should be a very active market. I mentioned that’s what I was thinking to someone who should know yesterday, but was told, “Don’t think too much.” That left me thinking more.

Perhaps Caserio just didn’t want to tip his hand. But it seemed odd..

BostonHerald.com - Weighing the futures of Andre Carter and Mike Wright, the Patriots timetable... and other tidbits

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Nick Caserio, Patriots personnel guru, wasn’t lying when he said the Patriots would wait a while. One agent told me the team will convene on Feb. 29 and then address their offseason issues, such as free agents. With an extra week this year between the Combine and free agency, there is a general pause button.

***MoLewisrocks*** · 02-24-2012, 10:55 AM

I think the best comment he got was don't think too much...

That said, Benny's reps haven't so much as had a discussion...

signbabybrady · 02-24-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jmt57

Rapoport expanded on the subject today; mostly speculation but for what it's worth here's his column.

BostonHerald.com - Looking at why Patriots personnel guru Nick Caserio used a different Wes Welker deadline…

So sounds like the Tag is coming for Wes unless he agrees to whatever the pats may have been offering.

***MoLewisrocks*** · 02-24-2012, 11:36 AM

The tag still gives him a chance to gauge his market and them to gauge his resolve because teams can talk contract parameters with him, just can't sign him to one without paying the tag price or approaching the Pats about some other trade terms.

Now Benny on the other hand appears destined to have to test his market. As I would imagine they will allow most of their FA to with the possible exception of Connolly or Koppen (one of whom they may want to know they have pre draft and even pre FA). they seem most interested in Carter, but his signing will have to wait simply by virtue of his injury.

signbabybrady · 02-24-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks

The tag still gives him a chance to gauge his market and them to gauge his resolve because teams can talk contract parameters with him, just can't sign him to one without paying the tag price or approaching the Pats about some other trade terms.

Now Benny on the other hand appears destined to have to test his market. As I would imagine they will allow most of their FA to with the possible exception of Connolly or Koppen (one of whom they may want to know they have pre draft and even pre FA). they seem most interested in Carter, but his signing will have to wait simply by virtue of his injury.

I find the RB position in general to be very intriguing. As I think there are 4 guys that we are all interested in and like to certain degrees but nothing really spectacular.

BJGE - has been great for us and has a nose for the end zone and grip on the ball like no other. I think by himself we would all love him back but at what price and his is really the only spot to improve on as it is the only open spot.

Woodhead - He is our third down back and he is a pretty damn good one. I guess we could find someone better but not sure we really are looking to as he fills the role fine and is under contract.

Ridley - Right now based on spurts of good play I think most people are high on him and hope he takes the next step next year. Nothing spectacular yet but he deserves time to develope.

Vareen - no real reasons to be high on him but lets give him the benifit of the doubt regarding his injuries and hope that he learned something this year and can take into next.

I think if there is a 5th RB it would be someone geared toward FB.

So now you have to ask yourself are you OK with Woodhead, Riddley, Vareen, and some lesser known option either cheap vet or low rd/UDFA rookie?

I guess another way to phrase it is how good do you think either or both Vareen and Riddley will be?

I think Woodhead and BJGE as proven to be pretty darn good but not spectacular, the youth of Vareen and Riddley leave you hoping spectacular can be reached.

But because it is just potential you are left with the one last important question, how do you improve this area? ok 2 and at what cost?