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Old 02-20-2012, 12:39 PM   #1
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For those who know him, they know "The cap is crap" is Michael Felger's favorite tag line. He would point to the Jets as the perfect example of a team that keeps on spending with no cap ramifications.

Well, the rooster has come home to roost for them. Adam Schefter reported today that they have zero cap dollars available. Also, Jenny Vrentis reports that they have decided not to franchise Sione Pouha, not because they don't want him back, but because they don't have the cap to franchise him. They are going to try to get a new deal with him before free agency, but if he tries to test the market they may have no shot at him. They have some big holes to fill at safety, WR, o-line, and OLB; but they have pretty much made it clear that they won't be major players in free agency this year because of the cap.

Looking around the league, the Lions and Steelers are desperately trying to cut cap dollars to keep their own players who are free agents. Others will join suit. Oakland has and will likely continue to cut good, but overpriced players to get under the cap (according to Schefter they are $11 million over the cap today). The Giants are likely to let Mario Manningham and other free agents go while trading Osi Umenyoira because they are over the cap.

The truth was before the uncapped year in 2009, getting in salary cap hell was virtually impossible. Even though Felger wouldn't admit it, there was still such of a thing as salary cap heck where teams had to cut players but not at the rate in the past.

For this year and next year, salary cap hell will be back for several teams. Until the new TV deals kick in, the stagnant cap growth is going to seriously hurt several teams who structured contracts expecting the cap to grow at a big rate from year to year. For the next two, it won't grow much at all.
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For those who know him, they know "The cap is crap" is Michael Felger's favorite tag line. He would point to the Jets as the perfect example of a team that keeps on spending with no cap ramifications.

Well, the rooster has come home to roost for them. Adam Schefter reported today that they have zero cap dollars available.
Awww. . . . I feel sorry for them.

Oh, wait. No I don't.
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Goodell should be summarily fired by his New York masters. He convinced them that the special Jets cap loophole he put in the new CBA would solve their problems. Remember that? But NOoooo! Now both NY teams are in trouble. Prepare to sleep with the fishes, Roger!
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Goodell should be summarily fired by his New York masters. He convinced them that the special Jets cap loophole he put in the new CBA would solve their problems. Remember that? But NOoooo! Now both NY teams are in trouble. Prepare to sleep with the fishes, Roger!

Maybe Uncle Roger can have the Pats forfeit a couple of high picks to give the NY teams time to catch up.

It worked before.
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This should have happened to the Jets a couple of years ago, but they used the uncapped year to sign a bunch of big names and dump a ton of cap hits. They also got an 11 million dollar gift in the last CBA, and still only finished .500. If the Jets don't strike gold with a ton of draft picks and UDFAs, they're up shiz creek until the cap increase in 2014.

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This should have happened to the Jets a couple of years ago, but they used the uncapped year to sign a bunch of big names and dump a ton of cap hits. They also got an 11 million dollar gift in the last CBA, and still only finished .500. If the Jets don't strike gold with a ton of draft picks and UDFAs, they're up shiz creek until the cap increase in 2014.
The problem with hitting big in the draft is that the Jets are horrible at drafting since hitting it big in 2006 and 2007. Jets fans love to make fun of Belichick's drafts, but I would take the Pats' collective drafts over the last four years over the Jets' drafts over the same period any day. Jets fans give Tannenbaum a free pass on the draft because he did so well five and six years ago and ignore the fact they haven't gotten an impact player since.
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The problem with hitting big in the draft is that the Jets are horrible at drafting since hitting it big in 2006 and 2007. Jets fans love to make fun of Belichick's drafts, but I would take the Pats' collective drafts over the last four years over the Jets' drafts over the same period any day. Jets fans give Tannenbaum a free pass on the draft because he did so well five and six years ago and ignore the fact they haven't gotten an impact player since.
I'm not a fan of Tanne's drafting philosophy and I am a huge advocate of most aspects BB's. I don't think the Jets can afford to go with just a couple of high picks this year. They will need to use all of their pics, and hit with all the early rounders and most of the later ones. The Jets are screwed without a miracle.

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i'm sure uncle roger is cooking a miracle right now.
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Immediately upon the hiring of Rex Ryan,The Jets set a window to make a good run at the Super Bowl and tried to win a title the past 3 years,but the Colts and Steelers in consecutive years and locker room troubles the following year stopped that dream,now the Jets have 0 SB Titles under Ryan and are in cap hell.

If you throw all your eggs in one basket and they keep on cracking in that basket,you are soon left with no eggs....The Jets are like cracked eggs,the insides are leaking out all over.
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Gresh has tried numerous times to explain the flaw in Felgers reasoning but hes an idiot. I guess if the Jets dont actually explode they're not in cap hell.
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