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Re: OT: From "the cap is crap" to "we are up against the cap, oh crap"
And the Rex window came on the heels of the failed Ratgini window which included the Favre experiment which set their offense back years as predicted.
The thing about teams who attempt to operate within windows is they risk ending up with them slammed on their chubby fingers with nothing more than the memory of some overblown, unachieved hype to soothe their pain.
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Re: OT: From "the cap is crap" to "we are up against the cap, oh crap"
Steelers are and they admit it and they say it is the result of doing what Felger lauds as proof the cap it crap, they kept pushing money forward ala Polian in order to keep an aging team together and agument it. Now they are up against it and while they can and will push more money forward they can't push it all forward or they'll be behind the competitive 8 ball when everyone else gets the windfall in 2014 because their's will have been spent already.
There is a real interesting dynamic afoot in Pittsburgh and I think it revolves around falling into the trap of letting the tail (Ben) wag the dog. I've always felt that was one reason Cowher decided to take a sabatical. Ben was pushing for more relevance via the passing game and given his less cerebral style of play and propensity for misbehavior... that was a risk-reward calculation the FO miscalculated on. Now they want to run again, and while they know they have to pass to compete they want to do so in a more disciplined style that is more consistently viable.
Some interesting commentary from one of their beat guys, Ed Bouchette, on the whole Haley situation (he hasn't been in touch with Ben yet...may be pulling a Parcell's approach). And also his observations that the Steelers may not be all that intent on retaining Wallace particularly via tag even if they could make room to use it because they don't want to set a precedent with two other productive young WR's who come 2013 will be in the same circumstance because of their rookie deals, and his observation that Wallace production dropped off dramatically in the second half of 2011 and the Steelers themselves may be questioning just how much they want to invest in this kid at this time...
Re: OT: From "the cap is crap" to "we are up against the cap, oh crap"
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Goodell should be summarily fired by his New York masters. He convinced them that the special Jets cap loophole he put in the new CBA would solve their problems. Remember that? But NOoooo! Now both NY teams are in trouble. Prepare to sleep with the fishes, Roger!
In his defense, it would have solved their problems, if they hadn't immediately gone and guaranteed a bunch of money for aging players already on their roster to shift cap hits (Scott and Pace) and then gone and given Holmes and Cromartie huge deals.
Goodell tried his hardest, but there's a stupidity event horizon that, once your FO arrives at it, even the commissioner can't bail you out. The Jets hit that point in 2011 when they looked at their roster and decided that they were a championship contender as constructed.
Re: OT: From "the cap is crap" to "we are up against the cap, oh crap"
Hiring "tough love" Haley to reign Big Ben in is a move of desperation and way too late. Hard to change a team's culture and once its gone over to the dark side the only fix is out with the old en masse and in with the new who are totally committed to that culture. Our own Jedi master struggled with the loss of Patriots culture on the defense for several years. I think he fixed the culture. Just needs some more talent.
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Re: OT: From "the cap is crap" to "we are up against the cap, oh crap"
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Immediately upon the hiring of Rex Ryan,The Jets set a window to make a good run at the Super Bowl and tried to win a title the past 3 years,but the Colts and Steelers in consecutive years and locker room troubles the following year stopped that dream,now the Jets have 0 SB Titles under Ryan and are in cap hell.
If you throw all your eggs in one basket and they keep on cracking in that basket,you are soon left with no eggs....The Jets are like cracked eggs,the insides are leaking out all over.
Eggs?
just tell Rex, "it's a wafer thin mint". i'm sure he can handle it
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Re: OT: From "the cap is crap" to "we are up against the cap, oh crap"
The Jets went 11-5 with a STACKED team in 2010. They had: One of the best O-lines in football, one of the best defenses in football, and a very good supporting cast (Holmes, Edwards, Cotchery, Keller, LT).
Flash forward to 2012, their defense is average (you can argue the pats will be better), their O-line is a mess, the WR core is bad, the RBs are bad, and the safeties are awful.
The Jets had a two year window (09-10) with very good teams but Sanchize held them back. Now, their just a bad team. They went 8-8 with two miracle wins.
Re: OT: From "the cap is crap" to "we are up against the cap, oh crap"
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The Jets had a two year window (09-10) with very good teams but Sanchize held them back. Now, their just a bad team. They went 8-8 with two miracle wins.
Re: OT: From "the cap is crap" to "we are up against the cap, oh crap"
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Well, the rooster has come home to roost for them. Adam Schefter reported today that they have zero cap dollars available. ...
Looking around the league, the Lions and Steelers are desperately trying to cut cap dollars to keep their own players who are free agents. Others will join suit. Oakland has and will likely continue to cut good, but overpriced players to get under the cap (according to Schefter they are $11 million over the cap today). The Giants are likely to let Mario Manningham and other free agents go while trading Osi Umenyoira because they are over the cap.
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Well, I guess it's a "The Glass is either half empty or half full" kind of thing.
The Steelers and Giants have a ring in the last few years to show for it.
The rest have a bunch of "not quite" and "almost" stories...
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Re: OT: From "the cap is crap" to "we are up against the cap, oh crap"
and this is why as much as the radio personalities call the pats cheap...their strategy works..
The Patriots, a team who went to the superbowl are in a good position to GET BETTER next year and improve their team without having to worry about these things...while teams like the Steelers/Jets are likely to get worse
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Re: OT: From "the cap is crap" to "we are up against the cap, oh crap"
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