Sivy

Me either, but its preseason so i dont really care. I hate preseason, it should be ended, and teams should be allowed to plan scrimage games with other teams on their own, if they feel its needed.

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jmt57

Though that is indeed what should happen, making it happen is a difficult business decision. Even teams that play the HOF preseason game have the option of playing one less game (for a total of 4, rather than 5) but they don't. The owners are intoxicated by the revenue stream. Fans are charged full price for tickets, and if you want season tickets then you have to buy the preseason games. Meanwhile the costs are low because players are paid the same amount of money whether there are three, four or five preseason games.

For there to be less preseason games, the owners would need to find a way to either increase their revenue or reduce their expenses in order to offset the profit lost from those missing games. Asking the players to take an across the board cut in pay would be like admitting to the NFLPA that you've been ripping them off for preseason games. Increasing per game ticket prices so that the total amount for nine home games equals what is now ten home games would help, but the team still loses all that concession and parking revenue.

One other thing to consider is that the NFL has evolved in to a twelve months per year business. They keep themselves in the news year round with free agency, the draft, hall of fame voting, minicamps, training camp and preseason games. Certain things happen directly opposite other sporting events, which is probably not a coincidence. Reducing the number of preseason games reduces the amount of NFL news, which does not fit in with their agenda of sports domination.

The best time to make a change is when the next collective bargaining agreement is worked out. If it is part of the entire package, then it could be worked out. It's a very remote possibility, because both the owners and the players would have to be willing to accept less than what they are currently getting, so it is very unlikely. Unless or until the fans make a collective statement by not attending or watching preseason games though, the owners don't have an incentive to cut back the number of August games.

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ScottieC

Yea, I'm not a pre season fan either.

That being said, I think that Rodger Doger Good"Gawd Look what I have done"Ell will soon be cutting the preseason to 2 or 3 games and making the regular season 17-18 games long.

That'd be cool. Another record for us to break.

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Sivy

From a business point of view, all of that is correct. But how would business be if Brady went down in preseason week 3? Or any major player on any team. Sure, season ticket holders would have already paid, but how about if they stop going to the games and spending 10 dollars on beer, or whatever else they buy while at the games. And the guy that doesnt have season tickets and is willing to buy individual tickets to every game he can...is he going to go wath matt cassel leading the 1-7 patriots? I dont think so.
Maybe the odds of a player getting injured are weighed against the odds of making money on preseason games, but sometimes things have to to qualitivative rather than quantitative.

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Deus Irae

Patriots v. Green Bay strike a cord?

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jmt57

There are two different business aspects to consider when we speculate on the effect a player such as Brady going down in a preseason game would have - that of the team and that of the NFL. For the reasons you point out above, it would have a major affect on the Patriots. However, it would be negligible from the NFL's perspective. While it could result in no-shows at Gilette should the team not be able to overcome his loss, the injury would have an equally opposite, positive affect on one or more teams within the division. The Bills and Jets, for example, could have greater interest as they battle for a division title, and some other team in the AFC also has greater interest generated as they make a successful playoff run. The networks could hype Chargers vs Colts rather than Pats vs Colts.

An extreme example would be what happened in Atlanta without Mike Vick. It had a devastating affect on the Falcons from a business perspective, but another team was able to profit from winning a division title and hosting a playoff game, while other players replaced Vick's role in the NFL marketing machine.

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Sivy

I think tv netwoks would much rather see a patriots run, than a bills or jets battle for the wild card. The patriots are a big draw, which makes them good for the nfl (no matter how much we want to belive that the nfl hates them) the NFL LOVES the patriots winning so many games, and "running up the score" they'd much rather have that to offer than some other set of teams that are doing OK because tom brady isnt injured.

Mike Vic and Atlant, is no tom brady and new england.

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vvusteve

anyone have the old fashioned dish (before direct tv)
just wondering what satelite and channel
the pats vs ravens feed will be on this thursday
Its hard to find a bar in phoenix with the old dish
to get LIVE preseason pats games