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SVN · 02-07-2012, 08:17 AM

Don't blame Welker, blame the pass - Extra Points - Boston.com

wonder how much the shoulder injury affected the pass

makoute · 02-07-2012, 08:19 AM

I'm glad someone with a wider audience is making that point, Welker has not made that type of catch consistently, he hasn't been asked to make such catches, those are the catches Larry Fitztgerald, D. Bowe are expected to make, not Wes Welker.

Triumph · 02-07-2012, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SVN

Don't blame Welker, blame the pass - Extra Points - Boston.com

wonder how much the shoulder injury affected the pass

I heard Brady might have shoulder surgery in the off season.

Some opposing fans say he isnt tough. Thats BS. He threw a block on the reverse.

Triumph · 02-07-2012, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by makoute

I'm glad someone with a wider audience is making that point, Welker has not made that type of catch consistently, he hasn't been asked to make such catches, those are the catches Larry Fitztgerald, D. Bowe are expected to make, not Wes Welker.

Chris Carter was on the radio and said that back shoulder catches are easier for taller WRs like the guys you mention and named one as the best in the NFL. Calvin Johnson?

He seemed to think that Welker has a harder time turning his hips FWIW.

NEP4Life · 02-07-2012, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SVN

Don't blame Welker, blame the pass - Extra Points - Boston.com

wonder how much the shoulder injury affected the pass

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I know, because I watched all 195 of Welker’s targets, from the season opener at Miami, until the fateful incompletion in Super Bowl XLVI.

Now this type of analysis, I can appreciate. Bedard apparently does real film work to back up his writing.

Nice job!

PatsFan2 · 02-07-2012, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SVN

Don't blame Welker, blame the pass - Extra Points - Boston.com

wonder how much the shoulder injury affected the pass

I think he's right...it's after he hit the ground the ball came out after twisting his body. The writer also said "Brady only threw four back-shoulder throws downfield to Welker all season."

DefenseRules · 02-07-2012, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Triumph

I heard Brady might have shoulder surgery in the off season.

Some opposing fans say he isnt tough. Thats BS. He threw a block on the reverse.

I guess if he kept the injured shoulder, that would make him tough. Man , f*** all these people. F them. I'm tired of people spitting on our QB. Makes me sick. He's not perfect, but I'll take him over anyone on any day.

Bella*chick · 02-07-2012, 08:27 AM

Jesus Christ on a pogo stick.....can we just STOP.

It's over. Dissecting, laying blame, none of it changes a damn thing. Time to look ahead and quit agonizing over this bs.

We have some team needs and it's time to start worrying about those. The Superbowl is over and as I recall, the Pats weren't supposed to be there and oh, even though they were there by sheer luck, it wasn't supposed to be close.

Elijah T. · 02-07-2012, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by makoute

I'm glad someone with a wider audience is making that point, Welker has not made that type of catch consistently, he hasn't been asked to make such catches, those are the catches Larry Fitztgerald, D. Bowe are expected to make, not Wes Welker.

Could Brady have made a better throw? Yes

Has Welker made that catch a number of times? Yes

Welker had both hands on the football.

If Wes Welker expects to get paid like Larry Fitzgerald he should be making those catches in the Super Bowl.

I'm not blaming Welker for the loss. But in my opinion he's more to blame for the drop then Brady. We've seen Welker fall straight back with the ball trapped to his chest dealing with the same exact throw. He decided this time to try and balance himself. He should've just trapped the ball and fell back like he usually does.

JFK · 02-07-2012, 08:37 AM

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Could Brady have made a better throw? Yes

Has Welker made that catch a number of times? Yes

Welker had both hands on the football.

If Wes Welker expects to get paid like Larry Fitzgerald he should be making those catches in the Super Bowl.

I'm not blaming Welker for the loss. But in my opinion he's more to blame for the drop then Brady. We've seen Welker fall straight back with the ball trapped to his chest dealing with the same exact throw. He decided this time to try and balance himself. He should've just trapped the ball and fell back like he usually does.

He isn't. Welker simply isn't that type of WR. I have seen him drop that type of pass and it isn't as if he gets those types of passes often. BB and Brady are responsible cos BB refused to get a legit WideOut