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Old 02-06-2012, 02:11 PM   #1
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I get the entire offense only scored 17 points and the defense only allowed 19 points, but for the 2nd SuperBowl in a row, regardless of the offensive output, the game came down to the defense needing to either make a play or make a stop and they failed. The only difference between SB 36, 38 and 39 and 42 and 46 is that Brady didn't have the ball at the end with ample time.

SB 42, one defensive stop and we win the game. Asante and Rodney and Plaxico later we lose. Regardless of what Brady and Moss did, we should have won that game.

SB 46, final drive we need to make a defensive play, and we get ZERO pressure on Manning and can't make a play. Manningham catch was unacceptable in double covreage. Ninkovich stupid offside penalty.

We could even argue the Pats defense almost blew the Baltimore game at the end.

Superbowl 39 Rodney makes the game winning pick to seal it at the end. Made a play.

I know the offense left a lot to be desired in both SuperBowls, but at the end of the day if our defense could make a play we would have won at least one if not both.
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:20 PM   #2
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How can you blame the defense when the Offense couldnt stay on the field long enough to give them time to rest? Honestly its hardly unexpected that they could nto make a stop. 42 you could blame the defense more so in this game the ending has to fall majorily on the offenses shoulders.
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Superbowl 39 Rodney makes the game winning pick to seal it at the end. Made a play.


You are trying to compare that D to this D? This D was garbage at the beginning and middle of the year...and they only give up 19 pts in a SB?

If you told me we would only give up 19 pts on D last night..i would have said we crushed them...nope
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Everyone one here knew the D was not clutch, no one was expecting them to be clutch, the Pats got way more than expected from the D, the offense didn't make the plays when they needed to.
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How clutch was our defense down the stretch of SB36 and SB38? That's when it was the strength of our team too.

No matter who you are, you can't rely on your defense to make the stop on the final drive when the other team has over 2 minutes. It's very hard to make a stop at that stage, even when you do have a great defense. The game was lost when our offense, our strength, couldn't put the game out of reach against a tired and injured Giants defense.
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Everyone one here knew the D was not clutch, no one was expecting them to be clutch, the Pats got way more than expected from the D, the offense didn't make the plays when they needed to.
The ENTIRE TEAM was not clutch last night.
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There were a lot of brainfarts, but not one big one.. all of which added up to this loss.

The D gave up 17 points, not 19....
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I honestly did not expect this defense to be clutch. Truth is this is a patchwork defense that has a lot of guys only starting out of necessity. I understand why people are venting, especially since the Patriots lost. But to get upset at players who just simply do not have the ability is going overboard. I mean it is what is, considering the personnel this defense played great.
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I thought the D played fine. Nice stop on the first drive of the game, and they get put right back on the field by the intentional grounding / safety.

Forced 2 fumbles, didn't get breaks on either.

Getting a stop, even near the end, doesn't do anything for you if the offense doesn't keep the ball.

As others have said, there's plenty of blame to go around. But the only thing that will continue to bother me about this one is that the Pats controlled their own destiny. They were driving and could have gone up 2 scores late in the game. A Welker catch would have moved them much closer to doing so. He didn't, they didn't.
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You are trying to compare that D to this D? This D was garbage at the beginning and middle of the year...and they only give up 19 pts in a SB?

If you told me we would only give up 19 pts on D last night..i would have said we crushed them...nope
Did you see the last drive? The giants pretty much marched down the field with ease and could have scored at any point.

The defense lost the game just like every game the pats lost. The way to beat the pats is to keep the game close until the final minutes and score on the final drive.

LOL the ravens did the same thing and the pats got lucky twice.


I'm soooooooooo tired of this bend but don't break excuse/defense.
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