PatsFanSince74

Eli's pass wasn't perfect, that's why Manningham had to make a great play to secure the ball while getting both feet in bounds. If the pass is "absolutely perfect" (your words), Manningham doesn't have to do what he did and struggle to secure the ball while positioning his feet. The pass was a little off, just like Brady's was a little off.

The difference was that Manningham made a play on an imperfect throw and Welker didn't. And that made all the difference, as the saying goes.

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makoute

What how dare you remind us of what used to be proclaimed by Pats fans in the past. Those things simply do not matter anymore, it's all about great numbers in the regular season, and choking in the post season.

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thenepatsrule

I compiled the season records for PATS and Giants since 2005 (except the SB wins),Mainly because people keep comparing 'Eli'zabeth's and Bradys Playoff (clutch) performances


Feel free to draw your own conclusions

Source :Giants

2005
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Record 11–5
Division Place 1st NFC East
Playoff finish Lost Wild Card
23–0 vs Carolina Panthers

2006
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Record 8–8
Division Place 3rd NFC East
Playoff finish Lost NFC Wild Card
23–20 at Philadelphia Eagles

2008
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Record 12–4
Division Place 1st NFC East
Playoff finish Lost Divisional Playoffs (Eagles) 23–11

2009
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Record 8–8
Division Place 3rd NFC East
Playoff finish did not qualify

2010
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Record 10–6
Division Place 2nd NFC East
Playoff finish did not qualify


Patriots

2005
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Record 10–6
Division Place 1st AFC East
Playoff finish Won Wild Card Playoffs (Jaguars) 28–3
Lost Divisional Playoffs (Broncos) 27–13


2006
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Record 12–4
Division Place 1st AFC East
Playoff finish Won Wild Card Playoffs (Jets) 37–16
Won Divisional Playoffs (Chargers) 24–21
Lost Conference Championship (Colts) 38–34


2008
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Record 11–5
Division Place 2nd AFC East
Playoff finish Did Not Qualify (didnt have Brady)

2009
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Record 10–6
Division Place 1st AFC East
Playoff finish Lost Wild Card Playoffs (Ravens) 33–14


2010
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Record 14–2
Division Place 1st AFC East
Playoff finish Lost Divisional Playoffs (Jets) 28–21

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strongside

While some blame has to lay on brady I hardley feel it was his fault. That being said he was outplayed by the Giants QB. Had Brady led a TD drive with 1:00 to go it would be different. Thats life in the Super Bowl.

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sambam94

I hate this reasoning. It's not Brady vs Eli. It's Brady vs the Giants defense and Eli vs the Pats defenses. They are not playing against a neutral defense.

Pats0204

I don"t really have a problem with the throw. I don't think it was a bad decision like the one in the Baltimore game. I'd make that throw every time; Gronk downfield vs. a Linebacker.

Armchair Bronco

I don't think there's any need to compare Brady to Eli.

Both are clutch. But right now, over the last 5-6 years or so, Eli has been clutch when it really counts. I'd say he's the "King of Clutch" right now in the NFL.

Sort of amazing to think that early in his career Eli Manning was being talked about the way Jets fans now talk about Sanchez. As someone who could never lead the team to the promised land.

robbomango

To be elite, means to be a part of a group that is of high class or in sports, the best performers. The Hall of Fame is a good indicator of elite status.

Clutch is playing well under pressure.

Not sure what dictionary your using

Fball

The one where playing well under pressure is part of being one of the best performers.

Eli made the HOF last night, btw.

strongside

if that's the case than you can never have a "who is better" debate unless all the variables were equal. The problem is your applying rational thinking in an irrational topic.

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